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Old 10-02-2012, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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The way I understand it is that when you go to fill out your application for a CCW, you are fingerprinted and those prints are forwarded to the FBI to be ran through the system. What I want to know is, what happens to those prints after they are run? Are they discarded or are they retained? If they are retained I have to say that I find it very objectionable that someone who hasn't been convicted of so much as a parking ticket should have to give up their prints. I just find it to be quite intrusive and it is one of the main things holding me back from getting my CCW.

So can anyone answer whether or not the FBI retains your prints and enters them into the system when applying for a CCW?
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:18 AM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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Yes, they keep your fingerprints forever and have tried to fingerprint as many people as possible. One of their favorite groups is high school students on class trips. They have done this for wll over a half century.
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:07 AM
 
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I would suspect they retain them, but as I didn't get finger printed for my permit I never looked into it.
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Richmond
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Where I live I was finger printed for my carry conceal permit. Many of the counties in Virginia require it.

On a second note 15 years ago when I started at my company, which is one of the larger banks in the United States, I was finger printed then. One copy stayed with the company, and the other was forwarded to the FBI. The company also required drug testing before being hired.

I guess it is the times we live in. The government wants to know just who you are in case you do something stupid.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:01 AM
 
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I have never been finger printed for CCW, I live in upper Alabama. The initial paper work I fill out is the size of a post card, then they call you back in 4 weeks to come pick up your permit. Then yearly they do another back ground check, you walk in say you want to renew....snap a picture and walk out with you permit. That is just my county.

Other counties, on initial paperwork, no finger prints and you walk out with your permit.

$20 a year.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:06 AM
 
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I have never been finger printed for CCW, I live in upper Alabama. The initial paper work I fill out is the size of a post card, then they call you back in 4 weeks to come pick up your permit. Then yearly they do another back ground check, you walk in say you want to renew....snap a picture and walk out with you permit. That is just my county.

Other counties, on initial paperwork, no finger prints and you walk out with your permit.

$20 a year.
Ours are renewed every 4 years for $10, no pictures snapped, just drop of the renewal form at the local PD and it's ready in no more than 14 days.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Yes, they will almost certainly keep them. Depending on the state you're in, it's probably done electronically, so even though you see a "card" with your prints, that information is all digitized and stored on a hard drive somewhere.

Agree or disagree with the details of what they're doing, it's been well established that .gov can put "reasonable" restrictions on your Constitutional rights (e.g. can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater). Printing people that want to carry a gun would fall into that category. I don't like it any more than you do, but that's why they can do that, and it's not going to change.
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Old 10-03-2012, 04:45 AM
 
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These days if you apply for a job, they check your credit reports, ask you to pee in a cup for drug test. When go in on a annual physical, the doctor squeezes your balls and stick a finger up your sun-don't-shine, draws your blood to test known diseases. When you go to the DMV, they take your mug shot and your finger prints. When you buy a gun, your LGS or FFL files a background check with the DoJ.

.... and you worry about your finger prints on file with the Government???
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Old 10-03-2012, 06:01 AM
 
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Live scan in California and yes they keep them. Varies state to state. There are better ways to track or frame you if that is your concern.
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Old 10-03-2012, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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These days if you apply for a job, they check your credit reports, ask you to pee in a cup for drug test. When go in on a annual physical, the doctor squeezes your balls and stick a finger up your sun-don't-shine, draws your blood to test known diseases. When you go to the DMV, they take your mug shot and your finger prints. When you buy a gun, your LGS or FFL files a background check with the DoJ.

.... and you worry about your finger prints on file with the Government???
I've never heard of having fingerprints taken for a driver's licence. I'm 69 years old and have never needed to have my fingerprints taken for any reason.

Why buy a gun from a dealer?

There's a big difference between a credit report or medical exam and finger prints.
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