Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Hobbies and Recreation > Guns and Hunting
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 03-24-2017, 11:00 PM
 
10,743 posts, read 5,672,124 times
Reputation: 10873

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Señor Ríos View Post
Get a S&W 642 or 442, put some hard cast wadcutters in it, and call it a day.
35 years ago, that would have been reasonable advice. Today there are much better self defense loads in .38 spcl. available.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-25-2017, 11:30 AM
 
8,742 posts, read 12,962,729 times
Reputation: 10526
Quote:
Originally Posted by TaxPhd View Post
35 years ago, that would have been reasonable advice. Today there are much better self defense loads in .38 spcl. available.
Like what?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-25-2017, 12:08 PM
 
10,743 posts, read 5,672,124 times
Reputation: 10873
Quote:
Originally Posted by HB2HSV View Post
Like what?
Cor Bon has three good loads - 110 & 125 grn. JHP, and their 100 grn. DPX load. Federal 125 grn Hydra Shok. Speer 135 grn Gold Dot "short barrel."
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-28-2017, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
12,950 posts, read 13,342,606 times
Reputation: 14010
Quote:
Originally Posted by TaxPhd View Post
Cor Bon has three good loads - 110 & 125 grn. JHP, and their 100 grn. DPX load. Federal 125 grn Hydra Shok. Speer 135 grn Gold Dot "short barrel."
I have that Speer load for my S&W J frame Model 38.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-28-2017, 10:57 AM
 
10,743 posts, read 5,672,124 times
Reputation: 10873
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScoPro View Post
I have that Speer load for my S&W J frame Model 38.
Yep, that short barrel gold dot ammo is good stuff. It's my S&W 642 right now.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-28-2017, 07:53 PM
 
24,404 posts, read 23,065,142 times
Reputation: 15013
Lehigh Defense makes some hard hitting rounds. They are expensive and not for range shooting, Youtube has some videos of what they can do. .32 ACP and .380 suddenly don't seem so marginal.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-28-2017, 08:27 PM
 
8,742 posts, read 12,962,729 times
Reputation: 10526
Quote:
Originally Posted by TaxPhd View Post
Cor Bon has three good loads - 110 & 125 grn. JHP, and their 100 grn. DPX load. Federal 125 grn Hydra Shok. Speer 135 grn Gold Dot "short barrel."
Thanks. I am having trouble finding penetration & expansion test on the ballistic gelatin for these. I continue to rely on the old FBI load
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-28-2017, 10:14 PM
 
10,743 posts, read 5,672,124 times
Reputation: 10873
Quote:
Originally Posted by HB2HSV View Post
Thanks. I am having trouble finding penetration & expansion test on the ballistic gelatin for these. I continue to rely on the old FBI load
That 158grn lead semi-wadcutter hollow point is a good load, and I wouldn't feel under gunned carrying it, even with all of the more modern ammo that is available. It's great for a 4" gun, but I don't know if I trust its expansion out of a 2"" gun. YMMV.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-29-2017, 02:32 PM
 
448 posts, read 365,909 times
Reputation: 362
I disagree on the 38spcl not being a good defensive weapon. Wad cutter are crap but a good defensive load in a 642 or Ruger LCR and you are not under armed by any means.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-03-2017, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Antelope Valley, CA
51 posts, read 46,510 times
Reputation: 168
Quote:
Originally Posted by TaxPhd View Post
35 years ago, that would have been reasonable advice. Today there are much better self defense loads in .38 spcl. available.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TaxPhd View Post
Cor Bon has three good loads - 110 & 125 grn. JHP, and their 100 grn. DPX load. Federal 125 grn Hydra Shok. Speer 135 grn Gold Dot "short barrel."
IMO, out of a snubnose (2 inch barrel), there is no advantage to using a modern JHP round. I will carry JHP's as a reload, though.

12-18" of penetration to vital organs is #1.

If I want reliable expansion & penetration, I carry a 9mm.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Hobbies and Recreation > Guns and Hunting

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top