How has the Southside of Tidewater changed since I left in 2001? (Norfolk: condominiums, new construction)

[MaskedRacer]

Originally Posted by goofy328

Thing about it is that people in Hampton Roads are still in denial. They'll call it xenophobic, or something else. Since it is no longer PC to be racist.

But hey, that's part of the fun of C-D

It's like I said before. None of the characters and lively personalities I've met on C-D had I the pleasure of entertaining offline with the people I actually talk to in Hampton Roads in person. Doesn't necessarily mean that they don't feel that way; but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt.

By the way for those of you who want to play race politics you'll be laughed at now. We are so over that junk. We should discriminate as a matter of fact. USA citizens should always get a higher priority of treatment within the borders of the USA than those who are not. I think in Hampton Roads blacks and whites co-exist pretty darn good actually. We are all american citizens it should be that way.

[Lockdev]

Originally Posted by MaskedRacer

By the way for those of you who want to play race politics you'll be laughed at now. We are so over that junk. We should discriminate as a matter of fact. USA citizens should always get a higher priority of treatment within the borders of the USA than those who are not. I think in Hampton Roads blacks and whites co-exist pretty darn good actually. We are all american citizens it should be that way.

I agree.

It's laughable how sensitive some people here are about race. These same dodos even call facts racist.

It's typically liberal logic. When your argument fails, say the other person a racist, misogynist, hate-monger, etc. Even when the other person is anything but.

The regressive left is out of control.

[Coconut1]

Originally Posted by vboryork

This whole discussion is hilarious to me. When you can't actually combat someones argument just call them a racist... it is the ultimate internet argument trump card. There is no response, the accused are forced to prove the negative which you can't do... and the more they try to defend themselves the worse they look. LOL

Looks pretty racist to me:

Originally Posted by Lockdev

Norfolk has a very liberal(backwards) outlook on how to fix problems. There is always talk about needing to build a better community through things like diversification, empowering minorities, and attracting employers so there are better jobs.

Originally Posted by Lockdev

waste god knows how much money on other useless things like minority-empowerment schemes.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/44000375-post28.html

[Lockdev]

Originally Posted by Coconut1

Looks pretty racist to me:





http://www.city-data.com/forum/44000375-post28.html

Way to cut and paste small portions of what I wrote without showing the context.

But even what was said, what's racist about that? Hating people based on their skin color is racist. Treating people differently based on their skin color is racist. Prejudging people is racist. I do none of these things.

In your eyes, being white with an opinion is racist.

This is the liberal mindset and the mindset of blacks who are quick to call everyone a racist. Anything that doesn't jive with their distorted view of the world is racist. If you're against government programs that help minorities, you're a racist. If you state facts about the number one killer of blacks in this country being other blacks, you're a racist.

Seriously. I'm against any kind of government welfare. Minority empowerment schemes are nothing but typical liberal government waste of taxpayer dollars. That does not make me a racist.

[Coconut1]

Nothing was taken out of context. The link is there for everyone to read.

I never said being white with an opinion is racist. That's your own defense because you know what you said is wrong.

[Poquoson7]

All this spewing has nothing to do with how the Southside has changed since 2001. The HR forum has become diseased, it's a microcosm of the diseased mentality of the US right now......me VS you us VS them all day every day (of which I am definitely guilty from time to time). Pity the fool this country has become and thank the political establishment for overwhelmingly helping to create this divisive toxic soup over the last few decades.

[vboryork]

Originally Posted by randomlikeme

I don't think it is always best to call racism, but I think there is a very vocal minority of Virginia Beach who would erect a Trump-style wall between Virginia Beach and Norfolk. Maybe it is more classism than racism, though.

I have no doubt there is plenty of both to go around. I just don't like seeing the racism accusation thrown around to shut down discussion when there is little evidence to support it. It is a lazy way to engage people and it doesn't do anything to change opinions.

Originally Posted by Coconut1

Looks pretty racist to me:

Well, it could be motivated by prejudice... or they could just think that race-based solutions have done little to improve the condition of poor minority communities in Norfolk and have been a waste of money. I'm sure there is data to support that conclusion. It could be the fact that most of our high-crime, high poverty, cities like Baltimore, Detroit, and even Norfolk have been run by "progressives" with affirmative action policies for the last half a century and the same poor communities are still poor so maybe we need to try something different. I really don't know, I'm not in lockdev's head.

That said, i agree with Poquoson7 that this has gotten way off topic and it is my bad for contributing to that fact. Another potentially informative thread has been ruined by petty bickering...

[Serenity2019]

Get back on the topic of 'How has VB / Norfolk changed since 2001? Stop bickerin and acting like teens on here or get out of my thread.

[goofy328]

Originally Posted by MaskedRacer

By the way for those of you who want to play race politics you'll be laughed at now. We are so over that junk. We should discriminate as a matter of fact. USA citizens should always get a higher priority of treatment within the borders of the USA than those who are not. I think in Hampton Roads blacks and whites co-exist pretty darn good actually. We are all american citizens it should be that way.

So, according to you African-Americans should get better treatment than African immigrants? Caribbean/West Indies? Black British? What are you saying exactly?

[goofy328]

Originally Posted by Silver-Fox

Get back on the topic of 'How has VB / Norfolk changed since 2001? Stop bickerin and acting like teens on here or get out of my thread.

You must not be familiar with the Hampton Roads thread. This is what we do here.