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Old 12-22-2014, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Na'alehu Hawaii/Buena Vista Colorado
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Guys, do posts 15 through 20 have anything to do with the original thread? Maybe you two could start your own thread for the two of you to carry on your debate . . . . . . . .
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Old 12-22-2014, 10:14 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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Guys, do posts 15 through 20 have anything to do with the original thread? Maybe you two could start your own thread for the two of you to carry on your debate . . . . . . . .
Gee what does 8 thru 21 posts have to do with topic? Or is this a selective choosing on your part as to who is to follow the rules or who is to not etc?
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Old 12-23-2014, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Volcano
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To me what you just basically said was "everybody needs to get jesus as there personal savior" as in the past history. Only today science has replaced religious belief. I didn't say support fraud, what i said was have openminded attitude about ultimate truth etc. Because our country is an example of ridged thinking of truth and false, look at both the extreme two political parties destroying our country because each side has the only ultimate truth.
D) None of the above.
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Old 12-23-2014, 02:24 PM
 
Location: HOVE, Hi
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It is not GMOses.... It is not pesticides.... It is not open cesspools...
The REAL reason people all over the planet are 'getting sick', is due to foreign, toxic proto-organisms released into our atmosphere by the recent meteorite shower... It happens EVERYTIME a meteor shower or comet (the ancients knew) passes through our system!
And to prove it, I am going to make a ewe-toob vid!

(this is the internet equivalent of stirring an ant-hill w a stick...)

RC

*edited to add appology to OP for further hijacking.
Sorry... couldn't help myself.... there was the ant-hill... there the stick...
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Old 12-24-2014, 11:17 AM
 
Location: honolulu
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Sorry, Kawena, that just more psedoscience talk. Posting a YouTube doesn't make it so. What you need are real scientific studies, by real scientists, and confirmed by other real scientists, and published through reputable channels, such as peer reviewed scientific journals, with full references. Not just unknowns posting unconfirmed myths and rumors on personal blogs and YouTube videos.

Chemtrails are a myth, according to the real scientists... a misunderstanding of the contrails (formed by ice particles in the upper atmosphere) that form in certain conditions in aircraft engine exhaust streams.

GMOs are not inherently harmful, according to a consensus of the real scientists who have been studying then for more than than two decades.

The source of the problems noted... and there are real problems... can be traced to the chemicals used as pesticides.
when you say real??? you mean that they are telling real lies.... and hiding the troot. You, Sir?? Mam.. need to know the difference between the highlighted in red which you posted.

At a NHRA event you would see a top fuel car run some300+ mph under the right conditions you could see a contrail come off the tip of their wing. Like wise when we go to a sprint car even, as the sprint cars head down the track one can see a contrail come off the wing of the car!! so kool... but, under the right conditions!!!! I seen it happen in the world of avionics. again under the right conditions....

Chem happens under all conditions especially when they want it to happen... turn it off and on when they want... yaddah yaddah yaddah... school?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2z2ZzXFeKo
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Old 12-24-2014, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Volcano
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Chem happens under all conditions especially when they want it to happen... turn it off and on when they want... yaddah yaddah yaddah... school?
Yes, I totally understand the myth. But in reality, there is no such thing.
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Old 12-24-2014, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Maui, Hawaii
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Thank you Health definitely comes first. It's interesting when things happen that are so out of our control. We moved here with everything planned as much as possible over six years to ensure we wouldn't have to ever leave. But I guess you really never know.
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I wish more physicians would move to Hawaii! Especially specialists. But I know they get pretty low payouts from insurance here and coupled with the cost of living and typically lots of student loans, it's not worth it.
We definitely need more doctors here and like you said, especially specialists. Good luck to you, I hope things work out better for your family on the mainland.
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Old 12-25-2014, 05:21 PM
 
Location: honolulu
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Yes, I totally understand the myth. But in reality, there is no such thing.
can you please go and tell the discovery channel....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZFNJplylns


I know..... you lost on this one. DON'T even think of challenging me.....
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Old 12-26-2014, 10:03 AM
 
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can you please go and tell the discovery channel....

I know..... you lost on this one. DON'T even think of challenging me.....
Kawena, God bless your heart, I just wanted to thank you for your amusing post.

Happy New Year and Mahalo!
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Old 12-26-2014, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Volcano
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Kawena, God bless your heart, I just wanted to thank you for your amusing post.
The problem is, it appears he doesn't realize how funny that really was.

Discovery Channel, of course is not a research organization, nor even a news organization, but is instead an entertainment company which presents a wide range of cable shows, many sensationalistic in nature, which are produced by independent film companies. Some of the shows presented on Discovery Channel are Naked and Afraid, the "Swamp Nudity" series; Shark Week, widely regarded as the ultimate in exploitational tv programming; Finding Big Foot, in which Big Foot is never found; and their recent P.T. Barnum-esqe Eaten Alive!, a highly publicised event in which the host was to allow himself to be swallowed alive by a giant snake which, after weeks of build up and on-air teasers, declined to participate in the spectacle.

And in fact this portion of a Best Evidence program episode was originally produced by Aje Productions, a production company which specializes in conspiracy theory and pseudo-science programming, such as Alien Abductions, Cattle Mutilations, Crop Circles, The Roswell Incident, and many more. They are hardly a reliable reference for anything factual, and they strain credulity at every turn. They often use the deceptive technique featured in this clip of showing very brief quotes from real authorities and experts in the field, like this clip gives an 11 sec explanation from a NASA engineer about what contrails really are... clouds of ice particles in the exhaust of aircraft... followed by over 8 minutes of unsubstantiated, undocumented opinions and hearsay by "true believers" of the chemtrail conspiracy, all without scientific backgrounds or technique. But by leading with the 11 second NASA clip Arje creates an impression of impartiality.

Adding to the offenses, this is not an authentic clip from Aje productions, or Discovery Channel, but in fact it is a bootleg post to YouTube from a third party, with a sound track slightly out of sync with the picture, a clue that it might have been tampered with, and referring viewers to a personal blog site which appears not to exist today. Can you say "Accountability?" Apparently these folks can't.

And as bogus as it all is to a skeptical viewer, they still manage to suck some people in on a continuing basis, which is important to people like William Thomas, the guy in the clip who's been making a living for 10 years writing about this particular myth from the conspiracy theory angle. He sure doesn't want anyone finding out the truth. He'd have to find something else to write about.

And lets take a look at the claim that commercial airliners are being used to spray chemicals into the upper atmosphere... adding the necessary chemical tanks and spray nozzles to do this without anyone knowing about it would be impossible. Any changes to the aircraft structure, weight and balance, or flight operations requires very complete testing, and inspection by the FAA, addition to maintenance and repair logs, addition to pilot and flight engineer manuals and procedure, and would require the coordinated actions of thousands of employees of private businesses.

In the internet age, in which the story of an airline executive throwing a fit over the way her macadamia nuts were served goes viral in a day, what are the chances that a secret spraying campaign could be going on without anyone knowing about it, and with nobody on the inside spilling the beans to the public?

BTW, if anyone is interested in seeing some of the actual NASA satellite views of contrail "grids" and explanations of how they form, this site is pretty good... http://contrailscience.com/contrail-...emtrail-grids/
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