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If HA can't expand to longer ranges like Colorado, Texas, etc. then they will have to try and take share from legacy carriers at LAX and SFO.
With 3 daily flights to LAX, 1 to Long Beach, 1 to SFO, 1 to San Jose, and 1 to Oakland - you are already pushing the Hawaiian Airlines capacity limits. Then you have, arguably, the worst frequent flier program of all the airlines.
Now that Southwest is entering Hilo and Kauai interisland markets they have effectively busted Hawaiian's monopoly. I've heard people say they won't fly on Hawaiian when they match Southwest's prices because they have bitter memories of Hawaiian exploiting them. I wonder if they will change their mind the first time a mainland flight delay inconveniences them.
With 3 daily flights to LAX, 1 to Long Beach, 1 to SFO, 1 to San Jose, and 1 to Oakland - you are already pushing the Hawaiian Airlines capacity limits. Then you have, arguably, the worst frequent flier program of all the airlines.
It was pointed out to me that Hawaiian Airlines leases 12 of their 24 dual aisle A330s. When they begin deliveries of their Dreamliners, they may just return the A330s at the end of their leases and keep the corporate-owned A330s.
This winter HA plans to all their foreign destinations with the A330, and also to SFO, LAX, LAS, SEA, BOS, JFK. The Dreamliners are not scheduled to be delivered until 2021.
While the Dreamliners might replace the A330s to JFK and BOS, primarily they will be used on foreign routes like Sydney, Brisbane, possible expansion opportunites include Melbourne, Hong Kong, Singapore and London.
In February 2019, Hawaiian Airlines flew these routes exclusively with the A330 (278 seats). The first number is miles.
2338 OGG SFO 278
2398 HNL SFO 278
2462 HNL SMF 278
2486 LAX OGG 278
2556 HNL LAX 278
2599 HNL PPG 278 Pago Pago is a US territory
2614 HNL SAN 278
2640 OGG SEA 278
2677 HNL SEA 278
2762 HNL LAS 278
2917 HNL PHX 278
4983 HNL JFK 278
In February HA had not yet begun flights to Boston
In February 2019, Hawaiian Airlines flew these routes exclusively with the A321neo (189 seats)
2349 OAK OGG 189
2355 OGG SJC 189
2409 HNL OAK 189
2457 LIH OAK 189
2504 KOA LAX 189
2569 HNL LGB 189
2615 LAX LIH 189
In February 2019, Hawaiian Airlines flew these routes mostly with the A321neo, but sometimes with A330
2417 HNL SJC 202
2541 OGG SAN 192
2562 OGG PDX 192
2603 HNL PDX 214
I like Southwest for sure all flights but flying to Hawaii from the West Coast or even further so awful to me. It’s nice to have the option to spring for first or business-class using painfully accrued miles from all the awful business trips I’ve had to take
Alaska Airlines seems to be the first to blink in the Southwest entry -
Alaska dropping San Francisco and Sacramento to Kona flights......
Southwest has not announced direct competition with these flights, although they are introducing flights to Kona from OAK and SJC. Alaska is maintaining their flights to Kona from both OAK and SJC. UA was Alaska's competition at SFO. It is not clear if the dropped flights were performing poorly before Southwest even entered the market.
Kona Nonstops
Southwest Airlines Oakland (begins January 19, 2020), San Jose (CA) (begins January 21, 2020)
Alaska Airlines: Oakland, San Jose (CA), San Diego, Seattle/Tacoma Seasonal: Anchorage, Portland (OR),
Alaska Airlines: Sacramento (ends March 18, 2020),San Francisco (ends March 19, 2020),
Hawaiian Airlines: Los Angeles
American Airlines: Los Angeles, Phoenix–Sky Harbor Seasonal: Dallas/Fort Worth
Delta Air Lines: Los Angeles, Seattle/Tacoma
United Airlines: Los Angeles, San Francisco, Denver
Last edited by PacoMartin; 10-08-2019 at 09:45 AM..
Then they didn't blink, they just dropped poor performing flights.
Ah, just a coincidence then....
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