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Old 06-14-2018, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Elgin, Illinois
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I’m trying to understand how a recent ER visit accumulated a $23,000+ price tag when 4 years ago when I had no insurance and had the same thing done in the ER merely cost $2,500.
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Old 06-14-2018, 05:43 PM
 
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Hospitals use insured patients to pay for patients with no insurance and no ability to pay out of pocket.
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Old 06-14-2018, 07:23 PM
 
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ER charges have increased dramatically. ER is one of the most expensive treatment settings. 23k is not unusual for a higher intensity visit (99284 or 98285).

25 years ago you could afford to go to the ER and pay out of pocket. Bills back then were less than $500.00 usually. Now an ER visit can cost as much as a car...lol
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Old 06-14-2018, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I’m trying to understand how a recent ER visit accumulated a $23,000+ price tag when 4 years ago when I had no insurance and had the same thing done in the ER merely cost $2,500.
That is the "manufacturer's suggested retail price" and is not likely to be the negotiated price actually paid by your insurance company.
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Old 06-15-2018, 12:10 AM
 
Location: Elgin, Illinois
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That is the "manufacturer's suggested retail price" and is not likely to be the negotiated price actually paid by your insurance company.
I had called my insurance last week and they had told me it was out of network, even though the facility said they did accept the insurance I had. But the insurance did tell me that they made an exception and considered it in network, and in an email the insurance sent they had under patient responsibility that I only had to pay $2,400. However, yesterday evening I find that the insurance hasn’t paid and now they sent me that $23,000 bill with the possibility of getting a 40% discount if I call them. I know I have to call my insurance to see what happened (they had already closed when I wrote this thread).

I still found it shocking that without insurance I had been charged far less 4 years ago, but now I see that it was as the other member mentioned, we pay for the uninsured.
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Old 06-15-2018, 01:16 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I had called my insurance last week and they had told me it was out of network, even though the facility said they did accept the insurance I had. But the insurance did tell me that they made an exception and considered it in network, and in an email the insurance sent they had under patient responsibility that I only had to pay $2,400. However, yesterday evening I find that the insurance hasn’t paid and now they sent me that $23,000 bill with the possibility of getting a 40% discount if I call them. I know I have to call my insurance to see what happened (they had already closed when I wrote this thread).

I still found it shocking that without insurance I had been charged far less 4 years ago, but now I see that it was as the other member mentioned, we pay for the uninsured.
Do not pay anything until you get a formal "explanation of benefits" - EOB - from the insurance company stating what the "patient responsibility" amount is.
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Old 06-15-2018, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Elgin, Illinois
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Do not pay anything until you get a formal "explanation of benefits" - EOB - from the insurance company stating what the "patient responsibility" amount is.
Thank you for the help, I called the insurance and what happened was that the ER had sent the bill before my insurance had sent out their share of the payment. Feel so much better $2,400 is so much better than the original $23,000
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Thank you for the help, I called the insurance and what happened was that the ER had sent the bill before my insurance had sent out their share of the payment. Feel so much better $2,400 is so much better than the original $23,000
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