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Why are some diseases such as sickle cell rarely seen in whites? Why is the natural hair of whites and blacks structurally not alike? Why are there obvious physical differences between myself and just about every white person in the world, even when consuming the same or similar diets? The differences between us are much deeper than skin.
I realize that anyone can get it and everyone is at risk, but IDENTITY POLITICS is taking this ball and running with it; I'm simply suggesting that other factors (such as one's own behavior) be considered, as well. We enjoyed a brief reprieve from IDENTITY POLITICS at the height of coronavirus hysteria, but - predictably - it didn't last long...
No such thing as identity politics, just made up words that are used for angering certain people.
I realize that anyone can get it and everyone is at risk, but IDENTITY POLITICS is taking this ball and running with it; I'm simply suggesting that other factors (such as one's own behavior) be considered, as well. We enjoyed a brief reprieve from IDENTITY POLITICS at the height of coronavirus hysteria, but - predictably - it didn't last long...
Yes, I agree with you. Everyone and anyone is at risk for this. We did not enjoy a brief reprieve from identity politics at the height of the coronavirus hysteria. The first IDENTITY POLITICS were around AGE. All you heard at the beginning was that only OLD PEOPLE could get this....... Predictably that didn't last long...... People realized that anyone (any age) can get this and die from it.
I agree with you that IDENTITY POLITICS should not be part of this.
In general, poorer people are more likely to live in crowded conditions, to have to rely on other people for assistance, to have less access to cleaning supplies, masks, gloves, etc., to have more pre-existing conditions that would predispose to complications, to use public transport, and to have jobs that require them to remain on the job and in close contact with others (nursing home attendants and bus drivers can't work from home).
In the US minorities tend to be poorer than the population as a whole.
Pretty simple, really.
The number-one cause of contagion is contact with others. If you gave "poorer people" all the money in the world, yet they continued to congregate as part of their family units (by choice) and social life (culture), would that change the numbers? It's debatable.
I realize that anyone can get it and everyone is at risk, but IDENTITY POLITICS is taking this ball and running with it; I'm simply suggesting that other factors (such as one's own behavior) be considered, as well. We enjoyed a brief reprieve from IDENTITY POLITICS at the height of coronavirus hysteria, but - predictably - it didn't last long...
I haven't heard anything about this affecting any one Ethnic group more than others within the US, until you mentioned it. The highest profile cases have been older white folks.
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The number-one cause of contagion is contact with others. If you gave "poorer people" all the money in the world, yet they continued to congregate as part of their family units (by choice) and social life (culture), would that change the numbers? It's debatable.
And when you acknowledge that New York City is a dense place and it's the worst hit, I think it's pretty easily accounted for as the single biggest factor.
There’s a possibility that vitamin D deficiency has something to do with Covid.
I'm not surprised. Many studies have shown that maintaining an adequate vitamin D level is about as effective in warding off influenza and other respiratory infections as a flu shot; it can reduce incidence by 40-50%. This is just one of them:
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Overall, the reduction in risk of acute respiratory infection induced by vitamin D was on a par with the protective effect of injectable 'flu vaccine against 'flu-like illnesses.
Vitamin D deficiency is prevalent even in sunny locations (such as the southern US) partly because people have been discouraged from spending enough time in the sun because of the risk of skin cancer. We are told that 5 minutes a day of exposure on hands and face is enough (almost certainly not true, especially for darker-skinned people), or that we can get enough from food (definitely not true). Fortified dairy contains enough D to prevent rickets, but not enough for optimal health.
And, the level of vitamin D considered "sufficient" is arguably much too low. A blood level of 20 ng/ml is called normal, but many doctors and researchers believe it should be 40-60 ng/ml.
Let's ask it a different way:
Is it indisputable that various cultures tend to be "closer" or "farther" - some hug, some wave, some live in generations, some live solo, some worship together, others find a virtual sermon fine? There are dozens or hundreds of other ways. 3 foot rule for strangers? Every been to somewhere where it's more like six inches?
So the answer is - yes - different cultures will, day to day, physically isolate themselves in different ways.
Will that be reflected in the infection rate? Of course!
Is it related to money? Separate conversation.
Why are some diseases such as sickle cell rarely seen in whites?
Because, among the people who are prone to it, it was an evolutionary advantage against malaria. People evolving in other geographic locations did not experience the same conditions, so there was no selection for the trait.
We can always blame socio-economic factors, but the argument doesn't hold water well when the AfricanAmerican community is compared to other communities in similar conditions....Additionally, while those soc/econ factors may explain higher rates of CoViD among blacks, it doesn't sufficiently explain the higher severity of cases among them.
Maybe it's related to significant genetic differences in the Rennin/Angiotensin/Aldosterine System (RAAS). It's known that lower ACE levels correlate with more sever cases of CoViD https://cardiacrhythmnews.com/decrea...vere-covid-19/ but paradoxically, blacks tend to have higher ACE levels despite lower renin levels https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4176798/ ....This may be roughly analogous to higher insulin levels seen in Typre II diabetics, for instance.
At any rate, differences in CoViD effects are probably more related to differences in ACE physiology than to soc/econ factors.
We can always blame socio-economic factors, but the argument doesn't hold water well when the AfricanAmerican community is compared to other communities in similar conditions....Additionally, while those soc/econ factors may explain higher rates of CoViD among blacks, it doesn't sufficiently explain the higher severity of cases among them.
Maybe it's related to significant genetic differences in the Rennin/Angiotensin/Aldosterine System (RAAS). It's known that lower ACE levels correlate with more sever cases of CoViD https://cardiacrhythmnews.com/decrea...vere-covid-19/ but paradoxically, blacks tend to have higher ACE levels despite lower renin levels https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4176798/ ....This may be roughly analogous to higher insulin levels seen in Typre II diabetics, for instance.
At any rate, differences in CoViD effects are probably more related to differences in ACE physiology than to soc/econ factors.
Yes, and it's not showing that African Americans are having worse outcomes or infection rates:
The fact that this is a GLOBAL DISEASE that has affected EVERY CONTINENT, every race/ethnicity, every AGE, shows that no group is more/less susceptible to it. The hundreds of thousands of Italians, Chinese, and whites, Hispanics, and Asians in this country who have gotten it and died must be some rare anomaly......
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Predictably that didn't last long...... People realized that anyone (any age) can get this and die from it.
