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Old 07-20-2020, 08:36 PM
 
Location: The Bubble, Florida
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New England Journal of Medicine disagrees:

We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.

Universal Masking in Hospitals in the Covid-19 Era
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.105...r_pub%3dpubmed
That is an op-ed (opinion piece, also known as an editorial), first published on April Fool's Day. Medical science has provided more up to date information since then. That's why the CDC changed the recommendation three months ago.
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Old 07-20-2020, 09:52 PM
 
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Walmart policy, per the greeter, was "you can cite a medical exemption and you will not be required to furnish documentation, however it's a good idea to keep it on you".

I think the greeter may have been alluding to all the people calling the cops on said mask-less person.
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Old 07-20-2020, 11:06 PM
 
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More states have also introduced mask orders.

With coronavirus cases rising in dozens of states, America's two biggest retailers have made masks mandatory for shoppers nationwide. Walmart announced Wednesday that face masks will be required at all Walmart and Sam's Clubs locations as of Monday, the Washington Post reports. The company said around two-thirds of its stores are in areas where public health regulations already require masks to be worn.

https://www.newser.com/story/293644/...mandatory.html



Finally! Great news, it's about time!
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Old 07-21-2020, 01:04 AM
 
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Walmart started their masks required policy today, so I'll do all my grocery shopping there for now. It's not my favorite store, but it's the only grocery store near me that requires masks. Some of the other stores around here don't start for at least a week. I won't buy anything in those stores until their mask policy kicks in, because for now I can shop avoid the anti-maskers by shopping at Walmart.



This article lists the start dates for mask requirements at various stores.

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota...ear-face-masks
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Old 07-21-2020, 01:12 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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It makes sense if a business can see trouble coming to stop it at the door instead of allowing it to come inside the store.
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Old 07-21-2020, 01:32 AM
 
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I have asthma, Ive tried wearing a mask, its very difficult to breath!


Ive not had any problems though, anytime a retailer or store says something to me about a mask, I just tell them I have a medical issue (breathing) and they say nothing more about it...


and that is THE LAW....they are NOT allowed to ask further details about anyones medical conditions, we have laws that protect us against that fortunately, even police are not permitted to ask about someones medical conditions, or what medicine they may be taking, how much, dosage, etc.


KNOW YOUR RIGHTS PEOPLE!
I wish stores would tell anyone who claims they can't wear a mask inside that they need to use curbside pickup. If you're too sick to wear a mask, you're too sick to be out in public shopping.

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Walmart started their masks required policy today, so I'll do all my grocery shopping there for now. It's not my favorite store, but it's the only grocery store near me that requires masks. Some of the other stores around here don't start for at least a week. I won't buy anything in those stores until their mask policy kicks in, because for now I can shop avoid the anti-maskers by shopping at Walmart.
I don't get why some stores are waiting so long. Target isn't requiring masks until August 1. Why? It's not like enforcing mask policies requires the store to undergo any changes. All you do is slap a few signs on the door and around the store as a reminder. That doesn't take 2 weeks. My county gave everyone 2 days notice that a mask mandate was going into effect. All the stores has their signage up without issue in those 2 days.

It just gives the anti maskers more ammunition to claim masks don't work. If ThEy WoRkEd StOrEs wOuLdN't wAiT tWo WeEkS!!
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Old 07-21-2020, 02:47 AM
 
Location: Out there somewhere...a traveling man.
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Claiming asthma is nothing but bull crap!


I have moderate asthma and chronic bronchitis and wore a mask all day at work


Drs and nurses do it all the time


I have several friends who are nurses and compounding pharmacists who wear N95s all day


And, I know one fireman with asthma who has to wear a respirator most days


Nothing but bull!

Wear your DAMN masks !!!!!!!!!!!!


Those that refuse to wear masks are the anti-establishment idiots, you know those that don't use signals when driving, roll through stop signs, had a temper tantrum as a kid when they didn't get what they wanted.
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Old 07-21-2020, 02:47 AM
 
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New England Journal of Medicine disagrees:

We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.

Universal Masking in Hospitals in the Covid-19 Era
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.105...r_pub%3dpubmed
You really should read the whole paper. Especially this part:
"More compelling is the possibility that wearing a mask may reduce the likelihood of transmission from asymptomatic and minimally symptomatic health care workers with Covid-19 to other providers and patients. This concern increases as Covid-19 becomes more widespread in the community."
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Old 07-21-2020, 03:45 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Wrong, if you come into my establishment without a mask, I would ask you to put it on or go. If your medical condition is that bad you better have a handicap sticker on the car and an oxygen tank around your waist. If not, you are full of BS, I also know my rights.
There are a lot of chronic illnesses that aren't visible. You can't tell by looking at someone if they have asthma, cancer, have had an organ transplant, etc. Any chronic illness that affects your ability to perform a necessary life activity (like breathing or eating) is considered a disability.

But you only have to make reasonable accommodations in order not to be discriminating against someone's disability. For example, I wanted to go into the gun store to pick up my husband's birthday gift. They weren't letting anyone in unless they used the store-provided hand sanitizer, which I can't use because I have anaphylactic reactions to it. I had a package of gloves I offered to put on, they said it had to be their hand sanitizer or nothing. So I asked the employee to take my credit card in and get my husband's gift, and she did. That was a reasonable accommodation.
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Old 07-21-2020, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Redwood City, CA
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But you only have to make reasonable accommodations in order not to be discriminating against someone's disability. For example, I wanted to go into the gun store to pick up my husband's birthday gift. They weren't letting anyone in unless they used the store-provided hand sanitizer, which I can't use because I have anaphylactic reactions to it. I had a package of gloves I offered to put on, they said it had to be their hand sanitizer or nothing. So I asked the employee to take my credit card in and get my husband's gift, and she did. That was a reasonable accommodation.

I sure hope the woman and whoever else handled your credit card used their hand sanitizer afterwards. Or better yet, washed their hands.
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