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Old 10-28-2014, 04:40 PM
 
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Discussions like this are a bit like comparing historical sports figures
from different eras. It just doesn't work. That Paul Kennedy book
mentioned above, however, is worth owning. I've had it since it
was published when I was at university.
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Old 10-28-2014, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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What invasion?

They must also not make the same mistakes of the west in and ownership. If they do not they will dominate for sure.
William of orange invaded and conquered Britain during the end of the 17th century. Don't you know your British history.
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Old 10-29-2014, 12:47 AM
 
Location: London
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For a time in the late 17th century, Great Britain and the Netherlands had the same ruler, William of Orange and his wife Queen Mary. He became King William III when Parliament took the crown of England away from James II and sent him into exile. It was offered to and accepted by William of orange. The House of Orange is one of the if not the longest surviving royal line in Europe. The new Dutch King Frederick-Wilhelm is the latest in the line of House of Orange to sit on this throne.
A Dutch King invited to take the Crown is not an invasion. No army came ashore and fought battles.
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Old 10-30-2014, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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A Dutch King invited to take the Crown is not an invasion. No army came ashore and fought battles.
The sacking of the Stuart King James II and the assumption of the English and Scottish Crown by William of Orange was not entirely peaceful since not everyone agreed. Those who sided with ex-King James II and his son Prince Charles were called the Jacobins and they took parts of Ireland and Scotland into rebellion against the new King. Protestant forces under William known as the Orangemen defeated the Jacobin forces at the Battle of the Boyne in 1691. Rebellion in Scotland sputtered on until the 1740s when forces loyal to Prince Charles were finally crushed.
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Old 03-06-2015, 09:56 AM
 
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I think Americans should take a look at this chart and realize that what goes up will come down eventually.
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Old 03-08-2015, 04:37 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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William of orange invaded and conquered Britain during the end of the 17th century. Don't you know your British history.
Lol
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Old 03-08-2015, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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It is worth bearing in mind that this chart tracks relative economic power - a cursory look at it suggests economic decline, but in fact all tracked economies are far greater at present than they were at earlier times when their comparatively much smaller economies were nonetheless more dominant in the vastly smaller global economy of the times.
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Old 03-08-2015, 07:55 AM
 
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Curious why those other areas weren't included. Lack of data?

Re: "The West could project power all around the globe"...

For sure and a great conscious decision. But interestingly it was also based on military might and use of technological acumen.
That's in distinct contrast historically for the East. They appeared to show an insular, inward- looking face to the world up unto later centuries and especially now where they are players on the world's stage. It looks as if there was a large cultural psychological difference inhabiting minds in both areas.
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