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Old 09-02-2015, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Two scenarios.

Scenario 1: Britain allows us to set up bases and deploy from their shores. The Brits, however, provide no manpower, no raw materials, etc. We're completely on our own. Now let's assume Russia remains neutral so Germany doesn't have to worry about an invasion from the East. How long does it take for today's U.S. military to liberate Europe and defeat the German army?

Scenario 2: The U.S. thinks it's better to assemble a SEAL Team and bring Hitler back to America--dead or alive. Would they succeed?
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Old 09-02-2015, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Sugarmill Woods , FL
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We can't even stop the ever powerful ISIS!
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Old 09-02-2015, 12:51 PM
 
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Using today's technology? One carrier fleet with all it's support elements would be enough to knock out the largest ww2 era army. It would be a turkey shoot. We would need some boots on the ground to mop up - not a big deal.
The trouble with today's conflict is not conventional warfare, that's the easy part, but the assymetrical element - insurgencies and guerrilla warfare. For occupied countries like France and Netherlands, that won't be an issue. In Germany it might be a bit different.
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Old 09-02-2015, 12:55 PM
 
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The U.S. began its invasion of Iraq on March 20, 2003 and took control of Baghdad on April 10, 2003.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeli...Iraq_War#March

So does three days sound reasonable?

But let's change one thing: the U.S. can't use Tomahawk cruise missiles.
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Old 09-02-2015, 01:17 PM
 
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The U.S. began its invasion of Iraq on March 20, 2003 and took control of Baghdad on April 10, 2003.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeli...Iraq_War#March

So does three days sound reasonable?

But let's change one thing: the U.S. can't use Tomahawk cruise missiles.
Our problem is not winning the war, it is winning the peace.
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Old 09-02-2015, 01:20 PM
 
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If today's US military fought in WWII (all others being equal), what would be the outcome? - Quora

This is a good article on this topic.
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Old 09-02-2015, 01:21 PM
 
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Using today's technology? One carrier fleet with all it's support elements would be enough to knock out the largest ww2 era army. It would be a turkey shoot. We would need some boots on the ground to mop up - not a big deal.
The trouble with today's conflict is not conventional warfare, that's the easy part, but the assymetrical element - insurgencies and guerrilla warfare. For occupied countries like France and Netherlands, that won't be an issue. In Germany it might be a bit different.
Yes, all this is based on great success in Vietnam. Sure. Or Afghanistan.
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Old 09-02-2015, 01:25 PM
 
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Two scenarios.

Scenario 1: Britain allows us to set up bases and deploy from their shores. The Brits, however, provide no manpower, no raw materials, etc. We're completely on our own. Now let's assume Russia remains neutral so Germany doesn't have to worry about an invasion from the East. How long does it take for today's U.S. military to liberate Europe and defeat the German army?

Scenario 2: The U.S. thinks it's better to assemble a SEAL Team and bring Hitler back to America--dead or alive. Would they succeed?
If you're talking about the U.S. with today's technology, and Germany with WW2 technology, it's a pretty lopsided scenario, and not worth discussing. A better question would be 'how long would it have taken the U.S. alone (without the Soviet eastern front), with no other allies, to liberate Europe from the Nazis'. I suspect the answer would be several years longer, and at a much higher cost in lives & treasure.
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Old 09-02-2015, 01:32 PM
 
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Two scenarios.

Scenario 1: Britain allows us to set up bases and deploy from their shores. The Brits, however, provide no manpower, no raw materials, etc. We're completely on our own. Now let's assume Russia remains neutral so Germany doesn't have to worry about an invasion from the East. How long does it take for today's U.S. military to liberate Europe and defeat the German army?

Scenario 2: The U.S. thinks it's better to assemble a SEAL Team and bring Hitler back to America--dead or alive. Would they succeed?
I don't see why not mate you've allways had a great army and special forces so can't see why not especially on the ground but I'd so with number 2 as it would save how many lives?

Good thought provoking thread this one mate
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Old 09-02-2015, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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If you're talking about the U.S. with today's technology, and Germany with WW2 technology, it's a pretty lopsided scenario, and not worth discussing. A better question would be 'how long would it have taken the U.S. alone (without the Soviet eastern front), with no other allies, to liberate Europe from the Nazis'. I suspect the answer would be several years longer, and at a much higher cost in lives & treasure.
How is that any different from the question I asked?

And why would it take several years longer to liberate Europe?
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