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Old 08-26-2019, 02:27 PM
 
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Continuing on with the theme.

Twenty-two years a slave, and forty years a freeman, 30-32: aristocratic, house servants.
More from Douglas.

The Life and Writings of Frederick Douglass: Early years, 1817-1849, pgs.47, 158.
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Old 08-31-2019, 01:06 PM
 
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Some info on the slave traders from across the pond.

A History of the Colony of Sierra Leone, Western Africa, p.19.

Travels Into the Inland Parts of Africa: p.20-21 especially.

Whether they call themselves scions of sion, afro-saxons, francais de coleur, anglo-indos, neo-utthmani khalifis, etc (when it comes to neo-colonial overseer, bourgeiose & aristrocratic castes & classes) you will find if they are not the descendants of the settlers (who in turn are often paleo & neo-nazis/fascist/corporatists & sometimes their spawn with their coloured concubines) then they are descended from slave trading cartel members.

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Old 09-07-2019, 08:29 AM
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It was impossible to change your legal status. Whether on a plantation or walking around on the street your legal status stayed with you. Even with forged or proper documents you could be kidnapped and sold. It seems one of the most common outcomes of warfare is a change of legal status or nationality to a population of people.
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Old 09-07-2019, 12:12 PM
 
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The states & societies that were wholly born of the Atlantic slave trade was not just in the Americas.

From Cacheu to what is now Angola as well as Mozambique was also wholly born out that system.

SS Africa, meaning settler southern Africa as well as settler highland eastern Africa are derivatives from them, though they are out of the time range since the mining & ivory fad really got rolling after 1865, if memory serves me correct.

Its probably better to study Haiti & the South American revolutions.

Quite frankly neither Africa (perhaps with the exception of the Badawi wa Yousifiya NASSERISTS) nor North America are really good models, that is if one is NOT interested in the settler/slaver sidekick perspective.

HIStory.

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Old 09-13-2019, 08:56 PM
 
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how come nobody ever talks about how they was captured to begin with
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Old 09-13-2019, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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how come nobody ever talks about how they was captured to begin with
Because that changes the narrative. Can't have that.
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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It was impossible to change your legal status. Whether on a plantation or walking around on the street your legal status stayed with you. Even with forged or proper documents you could be kidnapped and sold. It seems one of the most common outcomes of warfare is a change of legal status or nationality to a population of people.
Improbable not impossible. There's been cases of individuals gaining freedom via entrepreneurship , saving money, or being freed by slaveholder for marriage.
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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how come nobody ever talks about how they was captured to begin with
It was spoken upon already, please read through the other 15 pages of commentary.
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Old 09-20-2019, 10:04 AM
 
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Because that changes the narrative. Can't have that.

How so? They were weaker than those who caught them (other tribes and perhaps their own). Also weaker than those who purchased and brought them in for profits and prejudice. They didn't get from point A to point B by themselves. The Africans and Europeans did it.
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Old 09-20-2019, 10:15 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Well. Some of them they just walked away with the help of the Underground Railroad going as far North as Canada in some cases. There’s a group of black Canadians who keep the history alive and can trace their ancestors back to plantations in the Deep South.
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