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Old 10-29-2015, 10:35 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Hi all,

We have this small (about 6") wall on both sides of the shower/tub in a new bathroom. Architect said it was ok for crown moulding to just end at that small wall. Would love to hear your opinion about this. Should the crown turn the corner and finish with a return? Or is there not enough space to make it look right?



Thank you very much
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Old 10-29-2015, 10:38 PM
 
Location: South Park, San Diego
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Return. It just looks like a more coherent and finished design
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Old 10-29-2015, 11:24 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Assuming the shower is going to be tile, there will be no room for a "return" on the crown as the tile will wrap around the corner to face it off. So there's no "return" for the crown. This should give you a better idea
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Old 10-29-2015, 11:34 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Assuming the shower is going to be tile, there will be no room for a "return" on the crown as the tile will wrap around the corner to face it off. So there's no "return" for the crown. This should give you a better idea
No, the tile is only on the 3 walls facing the shower. That short wall is a thin wood trim to cover the edge of the tiles. See this other picture.
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Old 10-29-2015, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Texas
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If you are saying that a wood trim is going to go over the top of the tile to cover the edge and then make the corner? If so...oh hell no! That might last 5 years at best before it goes to crap from the moisture and any water that might get on it. You need to have a bullnose "return" installed. Chat with the "architect" and don't accept any wood near the shower....unless you just like replacing it every few years. Can't even begin to estimate how many houses I've been in where they ran the base to the tub and there it sits rotted. I've even seen crown in baths that is going to rot from moisture in the baths. But this is your house and your money.
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Old 10-30-2015, 12:01 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Not sure you are understanding. The trim is already there, I am calling it trim, but its a thick wood, maybe 3/4 inch, or 1". You can see on the picture on original post. The crown is ending at that wood. Does it make sense now?
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Old 10-30-2015, 12:08 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Okay, they've used a 1x for an end cap and apparently are going to grout to the 1x. Best of luck with that as that grout line is always going to be an issue. Dissimilar materials expand and contract at different rates. Grout doesn't put up with that and stay put. I would not accept it and have the 1x removed and replaced with with a backer board and have a bullnose put there. It doesn't have to be as large as the pic with most bullnose at 2" wide these days. This is a problem area that needs to be addressed tomorrow before it falls out of schedule and then it's wreck to fix.
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Old 10-30-2015, 12:28 AM
 
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Okay, they've used a 1x for an end cap and apparently are going to grout to the 1x. Best of luck with that as that grout line is always going to be an issue. Dissimilar materials expand and contract at different rates. Grout doesn't put up with that and stay put. I would not accept it and have the 1x removed and replaced with with a backer board and have a bullnose put there. It doesn't have to be as large as the pic with most bullnose at 2" wide these days. This is a problem area that needs to be addressed tomorrow before it falls out of schedule and then it's wreck to fix.
It will be caulked and it will be fine. i am comfortable with this choice and not going to change. Thanks for opinion, but the post was about the crown moulding.
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Old 10-30-2015, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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what is the 3 inch wall going to have on it?

if it is going to be tile and the rest of the tube is tiles I think the CM looks fine the way it is.

obviously you wont have crown on top of tile. now if the 3 inch wall is painted like the rest of the room, the the crown would have to be on that part of the wall, and midered and then cut diagnol sloping towards the corner to make it look finished. Dont know if I explained that right.
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Old 10-30-2015, 10:21 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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what is the 3 inch wall going to have on it?

if it is going to be tile and the rest of the tube is tiles I think the CM looks fine the way it is.

obviously you wont have crown on top of tile. now if the 3 inch wall is painted like the rest of the room, the the crown would have to be on that part of the wall, and midered and then cut diagnol sloping towards the corner to make it look finished. Dont know if I explained that right.
The walls are actually 5" each. They will be painted just like all other walls.
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