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Old Yesterday, 03:40 PM
 
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I think the key is that leak is only when two of you take shower closer to each other. It means more weight on the center of the shower base. If the shower base drain is not properly plumbed (say, not enough plumber putty, or not a straight angle connection, or something else), then weight from both of you in the center can open up a small hole/crack between base and the drain, allowing water to pool under the base. From there on, if there is any route to the middle of the water closet under the tile, water will travel there and yes, it can pool via small cracks (shower base is almost always higher than tile in in the adjacent water closet).

Easy way to test - load something heavy in the center of the base (to approximately match combined weight of both of you), turn water on and see what will happen.
Showers back to back, not meaning two in the shower at the same time, unless Iím totally mis-reading this?
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Old Yesterday, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Boydton, VA
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"There was no plumbing plan by the builder." ...that does not sound right....did the plumber just decide on his own how to route the pipes ?

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Old Yesterday, 04:17 PM
 
Location: LawnGuyLind, NY / Sarasota, FL
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"There was no plumbing plan by the builder." ...that does not sound right....did the plumber just decide on his own how to route the pipes ?

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COrrect. As far as we can tell that is what he did. The Builder said he followed the plan, but no one has been able to come up with the plan. Same thing happened here with the HVAC - had to bring another company in to redo the ductwork after walls were up. Made quite a mess.

THis builder should not be in business - a Custom builder, has built maybe 40 houses in last 10 years, 4 lawsuits pending and who knows how many never made it to the stage of a lawsuit. I could go on, but I'd get carried away!
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Old Yesterday, 04:26 PM
 
Location: LawnGuyLind, NY / Sarasota, FL
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Showers back to back, not meaning two in the shower at the same time, unless Iím totally mis-reading this?
Not two at same time
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Old Today, 02:22 AM
 
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Showers back to back, not meaning two in the shower at the same time, unless Iím totally mis-reading this?
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Not two at same time
Well, that is a shame.

I suggest including this, just to make sure all possibilities are exhausted. Several times. Because: science!
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Old Today, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Boydton, VA
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"The Builder said he followed the plan, but no one has been able to come up with the plan." Have you checked with the city/county building official...usually plans are a requirement in order to obtain a building permit. There is a possibility of locating the pipes with the use of an infrared device similar to this one, (I'm sure there are less expensive devices) if you are so inclined...there is also a chance that it might pinpoint your leak as well.

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Old Today, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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"There was no plumbing plan by the builder." ...that does not sound right....did the plumber just decide on his own how to route the pipes ?

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Gemstone1
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COrrect. As far as we can tell that is what he did. The Builder said he followed the plan, but no one has been able to come up with the plan.


This is not uncommon when it comes to houses on slabs. The topo, the position to street and/or stub locations can alter the entrance of supply line and sewer line. Once under slab, the main objective is to have all the "stub-ups" in the right locations- how they get there isn't.
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Old Today, 01:17 PM
 
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"The Builder said he followed the plan, but no one has been able to come up with the plan." Have you checked with the city/county building official...usually plans are a requirement in order to obtain a building permit. There is a possibility of locating the pipes with the use of an infrared device similar to this one, (I'm sure there are less expensive devices) if you are so inclined...there is also a chance that it might pinpoint your leak as well.

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Gemstone1
A video camera on a snake is how to locate as well as video the interior of the waste piping. Itís simple, quick and relatively inexpensive.
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