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Old 12-01-2020, 07:44 AM
 
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You may need to replace the toilet fill valve and tube. Some of the newer flappers don't fit exactly on the old fill valves. I called in a plumber who explained that this happened over the last two years. If you upgrade the toilet fill valve, it will fit. You can still buy old flappers online. The Classic Korky's can be ordered through Home Depot's web site. It's actually sold by a third party.

The best solution is get all new parts.
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Old 12-01-2020, 07:47 AM
 
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The one that I fixed was a leak showing up on the floor. It was the gasket my licensed plumber recommend a total rebuild as it was 20 years old and other metal parts were seeing lots of corrosion as is common with our water in Plano. I got a 50 price break on the rebuild as he quoted me an old price that had jumped $50 recently. I think my cost was $200 for parts and a licensed plumbers labor and a house call time, not charged separately but has to be buried in the price some where Im sure

He told me the rebuild was guaranteed for 5 years here too but cautioned that is about what they last with our water.. 5 years was not rare fail and 10 years was what he called good luck on a life.

The current issue could be a gasket leak like the other but the gasket on the into the bowl outlet. I am pretty sure I had no leak when I replaced flappers initially but after one flush, all of them started leaking again.

Ive got the internal hardware for a rebuild but not the gaskets or wax seal so will head to HD early tomorrow and get them as well adn tive this new handyman a try at rebuilding the toilet

Thanks for the comments

A complete brand new Kohler toilet is just over $200 at the big box stores...........

I'd never rebuild an old toilet for $200
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Old 12-01-2020, 08:17 AM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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DIY a full rebuild of the tank costs ~$30 in parts. The wax ring is another $10. One of the plumbers I watch on Youtube says the floor gaskets with the rubber cone/horn can cause leaking. The toilet shifts a little and the cone starts directing water onto the floor. He always uses a plain old wax ring with no horn.
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Old 12-01-2020, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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With a new toilet, you still need to buy and install a wax ring. You will also have to install the various gaskets - pretty much the same labor as rebuilding an existing one.

OTOH - for about $300 you can get a chair height toilet. If you are over 45, That may be a really good option. As you get older, getting off a low toilet can be a challenge in the mornings.
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Old 12-01-2020, 09:52 AM
 
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Well, the human anatomy prefers the low toilet to effect its functions. I despise those tall terlits and I'm well over 45.
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Old 12-01-2020, 01:33 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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You're not kidding. I'm on the Depot's site, a new toilet is $110 for an American Standard. That's $80 cheaper then his service call plus he also bought parts. I'm not the type to throw something about so would fix it if I did like the toilet. The ones we have aren't good ones, I'd replace them if we were staying another 10 years but I'd buy what we had at the old house. I'd hit my neighbor on FB to have her ask the owner what toilet we had.
If you want the leaks to stop permanently, buy a Toro brand toilet.
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Old 12-02-2020, 12:06 AM
 
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If you want the leaks to stop permanently, buy a Toro brand toilet.
Does it come with a motor and blade. You can take a dump and mow your lawn at the same time!I know you ment toto not toro.

I had some $110 Home Depot crapper want a piece of junk. Now I got some $450ish kohler not the Home Depot junK, From plumbing supply store. Best toilet I ever had. I only hear amazing things about toto.
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Old 12-03-2020, 12:00 AM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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A toilet leaks into the bowl a while after I replace the flapper. Done so three times now and its only a temp fix. After a few flushes it starts leaking into the bowl and the refill cycle starts. I tried silicon seal on the water outlet in the tank which did not fix it. What else could it be?

I bought a kit to rebuild the internals as I had to do on another one in my MBR. It was leaking to the floor from the bottom of the tank due to the gasket failing after 20 years. On the current leaky one into the bowl, I am planning on trying a new handyman to do this for me when I need that bath fully functional for guests. But for the life of me cant figure out what the flapper is a temp fix and the silicon did not seal it either.

Thoughts?
There is a rubber gasket between the tank and the bowl. That rubber gasket gets distorted and swells up and deteriorates. There are also gaskets on the hold down screws fir the tank. You can get a repair kit. Unless the tank or bowl is cracked it’s usualy gaskets that leak
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Old 12-04-2020, 04:55 AM
 
Location: plano
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There is a rubber gasket between the tank and the bowl. That rubber gasket gets distorted and swells up and deteriorates. There are also gaskets on the hold down screws fir the tank. You can get a repair kit. Unless the tank or bowl is cracked it’s usualy gaskets that leak
Thanks, sounds like the likely cause for my issue and not a huge job to fix
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Old 12-04-2020, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Boston
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If you want the leaks to stop permanently, buy a Toro brand toilet.
I think you mean Toto.
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