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Old 03-21-2013, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Let me remind you all of the Original posts question:

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Originally Posted by micmac99 View Post
One of the reasons I came here to Houston is for the close proximity to Austin. The western suburbs of Houston are literally springing up like weeds. When the Grand Parkway is complete, anything west of that is not going to be rural for much longer.

It's hard enough to believe that my own Westchase neighborhood was open farm/ranching land in the 1960s. There are some very small sections of Westheimer near Highway 6 that look as if they were never developed from the original farmland, and whoever owns that land is just waiting for the right price, and a strip mall or a McDonalds (or a gated community of McMansions) will be in that spot in six months.

Does anyone foresee the growth in places like Fayette County and the far reaches of Fort Bend, Richmond, Rosenberg, et al, to get to the point where the Houston area, for all intents and purposes, extends into the Austin area, or even to the point of bedroom communities along Hwy 71 rising up to serve Houston, Austin AND San Antonio???
The OP is simply asking will what is Considered Houston ever reach What is considered Austin

OR
Would bedroom communities get to the point where they can avail themselves of services in the Houston area or The Austin area.

The answer to both is yes.

The OP never said if there would be continuous development in a radius as far as the eye could see all the way to Austin. Or if there would be waffle houses lining the way to Downtown Austin.

You can't turn an improbable standard out of the OP's question then say it is improbable.

Answer the question as it is asked.

And as it is asked we are up to the point of Lee County.

Paraphasing the OP's question we get:

Will Lee County ever become part of the Houston or Austin area

Or

Would the metros come near enough to Giddings that people there can either be served by the Houston area or Austin area?

The town of Giddings is 10 miles from the Austin MSA and 10 miles from the Houston CSA
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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It not only stretches to CS it stretches PAST College station according to the Census. The Metro Area is up to Lee County.
249 isn't even a freeway all the way & development is not continuous from Houston to Tomball...not even close to it.

The census is full of ****.

That's about as foolish as me saying Tyler's metro extends to Longview & Shreveport, which obviously it doesn't.
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:40 AM
 
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249 isn't even a freeway all the way & development is not continuous from Houston to Tomball...not even close to it.

The census is full of ****.

That's about as foolish as me saying Tyler's metro extends to Longview & Shreveport, which obviously it doesn't.
What does 249 have to do with anything?
249 heads to Tomball son.

This is kinda what the new areas look like: The lighter green is now part of Houston, the Lighter blue are now part of DFW:



the purple area is Lee county. The only remaining county between Austin and HOuston
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:47 AM
 
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What does 249 have to do with anything?
249 heads to Tomball son.

This is kinda what the new areas look like: The lighter green is now part of Houston, the Lighter blue are now part of DFW:



the purple area is Lee county. The only remaining county between Austin and HOuston
There is all kinds of wrong with this map, it doesn't even include Jacksonville/Cherokee County to the South of that green in Tyler's metro area when Jacksonville is in Tyler's CSA.
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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There is all kinds of wrong with this map, it doesn't even include Jacksonville/Cherokee County in Tyler's metro area when Jacksonville is in Tyler's CSA.
Tyler isn't important. I didn't color it in.
Make your own darn map
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Tyler isn't important. I didn't color it in.
Make your own darn map
Right, THE hub of East Texas is not important at all.

It only serves between 260-300K people each day. Tyler's working population alone swells to 200,000 people 9-5 Monday-Friday.

Your map & the US censuses map don't jive man.

Speaking of which, FedEx is building a new multi-million dollar state of the art distribution center here to serve this fast growing area of the state. Packages going through Dallas/Fort Worth first before they reach ETX is no longer going to be necessary.

http://tylerpaper.com/article/201303...SS01/130329996

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Old 03-21-2013, 11:21 AM
 
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Right, THE hub of East Texas is not important at all.

It only serves between 260-300K people each day. Tyler's working population alone swells to 200,000 people 9-5 Monday-Friday.

Your map & the US censuses map don't jive man.

Speaking of which, FedEx is building a new multi-million dollar state of the art distribution center here to serve this fast growing area of the state. Packages going through Dallas/Fort Worth first before they reach ETX is no longer going to be necessary.

New FedEx distribution center will be first tenant in Lindale Industrial Park
The census map has not been updated. The Counties do line up.

Anyway Here is the updated map:

Happy now?

The Fabulous east Texas is colored in
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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No this map is all kinds of ridiculous.

Henderson, Navarro, & Palo Pinto Counties a part of D/FW...Trinity & Walker Counties a part of Greater Houston?

Come on man you can't be serious.

Those far outlaying areas are about as rural as rural can be.
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:46 AM
 
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No this map is all kinds of ridiculous.

Henderson, Navarro, & Palo Pinto Counties a part of D/FW...Trinity & Walker Counties a part of Greater Houston?

Come on man you can't be serious.

Those far outlaying areas are about as rural as rural can be.
Nope, your the one not serious:


Dallas
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The Dallas–Fort Worth Combined Statistical Area is made up of 19 counties in north central Texas and one county in southern Oklahoma. The statistical area includes two metropolitan areas and six micropolitan areas. As of the 2000 Census, the CSA had a population of 5,487,956 (though a July 1, 2009 estimate placed the population at 6,805,275).[14] The CSA definition encompasses 14,628 sq mi (37,890 km2) of area, of which 14,126 sq mi (36,590 km2) is land and 502 sq mi (1,300 km2) is water.

Components
Metropolitan Statistical Areas (MSAs)
Dallas–Fort Worth–Arlington (Collin, Dallas, Delta, Denton, Ellis, Hunt, Johnson, Kaufman, Parker, Rockwall, Tarrant, and Wise counties)
Sherman-Denison (Grayson County)
Micropolitan Statistical Areas
Athens (Henderson County)
Bonham (Fannin County)
Durant, OK (Bryan County)
Gainesville (Cooke County)
Granbury (Hood and Somervell counties)
Mineral Wells (Palo Pinto County)
Please keep up with reality.

Walker County has been part of Houston for ages now.
Washington County was just added. Along with Wharton and Trinity.

No wonder you were saying the silly stuff you did on the last page. You didn't know that the census redefined the Metropolitan areas
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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1. Where was I rude? Stop being sensitive
2. I said over and over that the gap is 20miles. I even posted the driving directions that said as much. It is 20 miles along 290.
3. We don't have to define greater Houston and Greater Austin. The census does all the defining. Greater Houston is what the census says it is:

Harris,
Fort Bend
Montgomery
Austin
Brazoria
Galveston
Chambers
Waller
Walker
Trinity
Matagorda
Liberty
Wharton

Are you sure you visit the City vs City forum? This was all the rage two weeks ago.

Greater Austin is still
Travis
Bastrop
Willimson
Hays
Caldwell

Burnett County was axed from Austin so was San Jac from Houston

The Bureau of Economic analysis is more generous. They already include Lee and Milam Counties in their definition of areas as these areas are economically tied to Austin Somehow. http://www.bea.gov/regional/_images/ea/econareamap.jpg Austin is area 13 on this map
You seem to be antagonistic in a lot of your posts. It's the internet, my friend. Not that serious, I promise.

As far as the census. Well the census is a crock of you know what! I'm looking at all of those maps and they're attributing things to "greater Austin" that just aren't a part of it in reality. And even so, do you know how many miles of pasture seperate those county lines from any significant population base in the Austin metro area?
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