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Old 01-25-2012, 07:23 AM
 
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It should be made mandatory in Texas that teachers be certified in the area of Reading, Science, Math, and Social Studies if they are teaching those. It is troubling that you have people teaching subjects that they don't know well themselves. Having a general teacher certification is not enough.
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Pearland, TX
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It should be made mandatory in Texas that teachers be certified in the area of Reading, Science, Math, and Social Studies if they are teaching those. It is troubling that you have people teaching subjects that they don't know well themselves. Having a general teacher certification is not enough.
That's not the problem. The problem stems from nobody wanting to be a teacher given the work conditions and sub-standard pay. That's what drives no consideration being given to who teaches what.

Ronnie
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Fortbend County
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I see many teachers are graduate from TX A&M. There are plenty of young people want to be teachers. They all major in liberal arts, so no other jobs for them.

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That's not the problem. The problem stems from nobody wanting to be a teacher given the work conditions and sub-standard pay. That's what drives no consideration being given to who teaches what.

Ronnie
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Pearland, TX
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I see many teachers are graduate from TX A&M. There are plenty of young people want to be teachers. They all major in liberal arts, so no other jobs for them.
From the Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts:

"Today, nearly 37,000 Texas teachers leave the classroom each year for other professions or to retire. Growth in the state’s school-aged population demands another 5,000 new teachers each year, and at present that goal is not being met."
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Fortbend County
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It is hard to belived this statement. Here is the link for "Many With New College Degree Find the Job Market Humbling"

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/19/bu...y/19grads.html

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From the Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts:

"Today, nearly 37,000 Texas teachers leave the classroom each year for other professions or to retire. Growth in the state’s school-aged population demands another 5,000 new teachers each year, and at present that goal is not being met."
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Pearland, TX
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It is hard to belived this statement. Here is the link for "Many With New College Degree Find the Job Market Humbling"

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/19/bu...y/19grads.html

LOL, we could play dueling links, but that serves no purpose. Let's just say the Comptroller's full of beans and leave it at that.

Ronnie
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Charleston Sc and Western NC
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From the Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts:

"Today, nearly 37,000 Texas teachers leave the classroom each year for other professions or to retire. Growth in the state’s school-aged population demands another 5,000 new teachers each year, and at present that goal is not being met."
That's why you have so many first year teachers in the public school system. They teach for three years or less and move on to better paying jobs. This means they have zero experience controlling children, running a classroom, and identifying any significant learning problems in children.

Texas keeps expanding it's burbs, building more schools and the only people that can fill the teaching positions this creates are those fresh out of college...any college.
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:14 AM
 
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Most districts put the new inexperienced teachers in the toughest schools. Should be the other way.
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Old 01-25-2012, 11:28 AM
 
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Most districts put the new inexperienced teachers in the toughest schools. Should be the other way.
Nah. Let the bad kids weed the weak out. Simple Darwinism. Do your time with the hood kids, then move on to help kids who want to learn when you know what you are doing. Reward hard work, talent, and dedication with the worst jobs? That isn't fair. That would never cut it in corporate America.
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Old 01-25-2012, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Pearland
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Most districts put the new inexperienced teachers in the toughest schools. Should be the other way.
Follow this advice, and you will really chase all the good teachers out of the system. Wow, thats not real well though out. You'd end up with nothing but new teachers that cant get any other job.
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