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Old 04-13-2018, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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Interesting data from the Census estimates and a report from the Rice/Kinder Institute:

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Houston Suburbs Are Booming, But Harris County Is Not
APR 11, 2018
WILLIAM FULTON

Harris County fell far behind Maricopa County, Arizona, which is now the No. 1 county in the nation for population growth. And recently the respected demographer William Frey of the Brookings Institution found that population growth in core urban areas like Harris County has now fallen behind growth rates in the suburbs, the exurbs, and rural areas.

Further analysis by the Kinder Institute finds that underlying . . . these trends are two striking facts: First, the decline in population growth in metropolitan Houston is all occurring in Harris County. And second, that decline in population growth is due entirely to a striking reversal in domestic in-migration in Harris County. Natural increase (births over deaths) and international migration are holding steady, but in 2017 far more people moved out of Harris County to go to other places in the United States than moved into Harris County from other places in the United States, according to the recently released Census data.
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https://kinder.rice.edu/2018/04/10/h...ris-county-not

A breakdown by year in Harris County since 2010 shows the natural increase due to births/deaths (about 45,000 per year) and international migration (about 33,000 per year) have been stable, but domestic in-migration dropped from a 17,000 net inflow two years ago to a 45,000 net outflow last year. Note that these changes were measured before Harvey struck.

Is this a temporary trend, or does this represent a longer term change? What areas have been most affected?

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Old 04-13-2018, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I wish this trend continues.
Why do we have to be #1 in growth?
What benefits does it give to you?
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:18 AM
 
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Great news. I hope it continues.
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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Don't get to delighted they are leaving Harris County for Ft. Bend and Montgomery County for the most part...
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Old 04-13-2018, 10:26 AM
 
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Don't get to delighted they are leaving Harris County for Ft. Bend and Montgomery County for the most part...
As evidenced by worsening traffic on the major arteries heading into town during commuting hours.

Actually, re-reading the OP, it notes that the out-migration from Harris County is to other places within the US. But I suspect in-migration to the metro area leans more to the burbs. Hence the steady to worsening traffic.

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Old 04-13-2018, 10:39 AM
 
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I wish this trend continues.
Why do we have to be #1 in growth?
What benefits does it give to you?
I would benefit if I'm in the real estate/construction biz, or any other affiliated with servicing transplants/a new customer base.

Otherwise, not so much.
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Old 04-13-2018, 10:48 AM
 
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Interesting data from the Census estimates and a report from the Rice/Kinder Institute:



(boldface added)

https://kinder.rice.edu/2018/04/10/h...ris-county-not

A breakdown by year in Harris County since 2010 shows the natural increase due to births/deaths (about 45,000 per year) and international migration (about 33,000 per year) have been stable, but domestic in-migration dropped from a 17,000 net inflow two years ago to a 45,000 net outflow last year. Note that these changes were measured before Harvey struck.

Is this a temporary trend, or does this represent a longer term change? What areas have been most affected?
People mostly move for :

1) Jobs
2) Schooling/housing for their kids

A look at the main industries dominant in Houston would probably provide an answer to #1, and #2 may be due to younger families with school age kids relocating to the burbs in search of better schools/housing options for their kids.

Whether this is temporary or permanent will most likely depend on the long-term employment future of Houston.
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Old 04-13-2018, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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As evidenced by worsening traffic on the major arteries heading into town during commuting hours.

Actually, re-reading the OP, it notes that the out-migration from Harris County is to other places within the US. But I suspect in-migration to the metro area leans more to the burbs. Hence the steady to worsening traffic.
The article also states,

"Clearly, many of these out-migrants may simply be going to the Houston suburbs. But the population dynamics in the suburbs have not changed much in the last couple of years"

Montgomery and Ft Bend Counties are other places in the US aren't they ?
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Old 04-13-2018, 11:38 AM
 
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The article also states,

"Clearly, many of these out-migrants may simply be going to the Houston suburbs. But the population dynamics in the suburbs have not changed much in the last couple of years"

Montgomery and Ft Bend Counties are other places in the US aren't they ?
Did not read that part; only what was posted in OP.

Yes, they are.
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Old 04-13-2018, 11:43 AM
 
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I wish this trend continues.
Why do we have to be #1 in growth?
What benefits does it give to you?
Oil crash helped us
and now real estate is going up .... good, I already bought my house
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