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Old 10-13-2018, 08:04 PM
 
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I don't think anyone has an issue with the hiring of a Hispanic super, but when one of the Hispanic board makes a statement about the district should have a Hispanic super due to the enrollment is suspect. The intern was doing a very good job, but the Hispanic board members wanted her out to open things up for another Hispanic super. One board member had the nerves to reach out to the former dirty Hispanic super who was responsible for HISD's financial troubles without the consent of the rest of the board.

As for Fraley, no matter what he did while at the district (KISD) you had a huge group of people blaming him for everything. He was never really accepted in the community, I believe a lot of it was racially motivated.

Btw you have a moron sitting on KISD school board who use to have a website dedicated to exposing Fraley, this is the same moron voted to have the district hire an attorney to stop other from basically doing the same thing.



Really? Who is that? How did they get on the board if that's known?
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Old 10-13-2018, 08:05 PM
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Which do you think are the worst issues?

IMO I think the punishing schools for not performing well causes perverse incentives.
Before they had no consequences for failure.

The problem with the school boards is that politicians are getting involved with school boards as stepping stones to other political jobs.
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Old 10-13-2018, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Katy,TX.
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Really? Who is that? How did they get on the board if that's known?
George Scott, it's pretty common knowledge. Funny thing is after his supporters voted him in, he turned into a yes man for the supers lol typical politicians.

Google GeorgeScottReports.com. he has since scrubbed the site but you can still find some of the nonsense he'd write when Fraley was in charge.
https://www.houstonpress.com/news/ka...adowed-7870051
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Old 10-13-2018, 08:19 PM
 
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This is the group that thought it needed to rename Sidney Lanier MS because he served in the Confederate army as a sailor and spent most of the war in a prison camp. Ignorant and unprofessional.
There were multiple schools targeted by that, and in most cases I agree. The news reports said they got Lanier simply because it was low-hanging fruit: Lanier himself wasn't that well-known of a poet by that time. I disagree with the rename, but IMO it wasn't a big deal.
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Old 10-13-2018, 08:22 PM
 
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1. The problem is that schools aren't the cause of failure all of the time. Instead it's issues at home and in the community that are deeply rooted. In the end it's about saying "we're doing something" and taking actions that aren't actually making a difference, while teachers who do everything they *reasonably* (reasonably is key, as they shouldn't be expected to be putting in so much effort that their marriages fail) should do for success still get punished for things out of their control.

2. If education was higher-paying and better respected people would see school boards as the cream of the crop and a final destination. Instead... well.. Mark Twain made some disparaging comments on school boards.

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Before they had no consequences for failure.

The problem with the school boards is that politicians are getting involved with school boards as stepping stones to other political jobs.
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Old 10-13-2018, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Katy,TX.
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This is the group that thought it needed to rename Sidney Lanier MS because he served in the Confederate army as a sailor and spent most of the war in a prison camp. Ignorant and unprofessional.
IMHO if he was in the Confederate army.....then ***** em
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Old 10-13-2018, 09:12 PM
 
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IMHO if he was in the Confederate army.....then ***** em
Lanier was 19 or so when the war started. Essentially every male that age served. He spent most of the war as a POW and contracted tuberculosis that later killed him. It's not like he was anything other than a pawn, unlike Jefferson Davis or Robert E Lee.
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Old 10-13-2018, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Houston
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its true - Hispanics want the control of the district but the district is at an all-time low in morale as their numbers grow. The extracurricular activities such as football is atrocious to watch now as no one attends the games. HISD is literally losing money with less than 300 people attending games.

Whites have long gone and blacks followed and hung around as long as they could before following whites to suburban areas where their power is less when they had power in HISD. Hispanics fill the void but they have no historical ties to HISD and don't value certain traditions that the district established for whatever reason. Friday night lights just isn't important.

HISD has caved in to politicians and won't shut down low enrollment schools and they've rebuilt schools in certain areas with declining enrollment.

HISD has refused to address kids leaving zones and piling up at certain schools schools while others sit empty. They are their own worst enemy.

Jolanda Jones went to Elsik High School ironically and her son went to a charter school.
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Old 10-14-2018, 01:15 AM
 
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What about the attendance of soccer games?

Lee High (now Wisdom) once disbanded its football team as there weren't enough students... so they had golf instead.

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its true - Hispanics want the control of the district but the district is at an all-time low in morale as their numbers grow. The extracurricular activities such as football is atrocious to watch now as no one attends the games. HISD is literally losing money with less than 300 people attending games.

Whites have long gone and blacks followed and hung around as long as they could before following whites to suburban areas where their power is less when they had power in HISD. Hispanics fill the void but they have no historical ties to HISD and don't value certain traditions that the district established for whatever reason. Friday night lights just isn't important.

HISD has caved in to politicians and won't shut down low enrollment schools and they've rebuilt schools in certain areas with declining enrollment.

HISD has refused to address kids leaving zones and piling up at certain schools schools while others sit empty. They are their own worst enemy.

Jolanda Jones went to Elsik High School ironically and her son went to a charter school.
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Old 10-14-2018, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Houston
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1. The problem is that schools aren't the cause of failure all of the time. Instead it's issues at home and in the community that are deeply rooted. In the end it's about saying "we're doing something" and taking actions that aren't actually making a difference, while teachers who do everything they *reasonably* (reasonably is key, as they shouldn't be expected to be putting in so much effort that their marriages fail) should do for success still get punished for things out of their control.

2. If education was higher-paying and better respected people would see school boards as the cream of the crop and a final destination. Instead... well.. Mark Twain made some disparaging comments on school boards.
I just want to thank you for this observation. Teachers get blamed for so many things that are beyond our control while we have nightmares about going to work and work all day just to come home and continue to work until we fall asleep in bed grading papers or revamping lesson plans. Thanks

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