Lina Hidalgo (D) looked like a fumbling idiot on KPRC Channel 2 yesterday talking about the Deer Park ITC fire (Houston: minimum wage, live)

[jfre81]

Originally Posted by AliefNorth

Okay so all kidding aside we really have a disaster here. I’ve never seen a huge chemical cloud covering the entire metro Houston area (including outer suburbs). I’m surprised a lot of people aren’t taking this seriously

We're taking it seriously in the other thread. This one is like a political consumer complaint thread. I've posted news and original content photo in the one you started. Let's just leave this one alone and talk about real world issues there, deal?

Deal.

[mikeyyc]

Originally Posted by AliefNorth

Okay so all kidding aside we really have a disaster here. I’ve never seen a huge chemical cloud covering the entire metro Houston area (including outer suburbs). I’m surprised a lot of people aren’t taking this seriously

In all honesty, there's nothing you can do. It will burn itself out when there's nothing left to burn. Keep the fire from spreading is the best that can be achieved. Xylene, naptha (better known as camp stove fuel) and gasoline are just gonna burn, and we're probably better off dealing with full combustion and smoke than the liquid poop pile that would be left if you managed to extinguish it.

[Mr. Krinkle]

Originally Posted by mikeyyc

In all honesty, there's nothing you can do. It will burn itself out when there's nothing left to burn. Keep the fire from spreading is the best that can be achieved. Xylene, naptha (better known as camp stove fuel) and gasoline are just gonna burn, and we're probably better off dealing with full combustion and smoke than the liquid poop pile that would be left if you managed to extinguish it.

Yeah, but Lina Hidalgo should be extinguishing the fire herself. She's lost.

[jfre81]

Originally Posted by mikeyyc

and we're probably better off dealing with full combustion and smoke than the liquid poop pile that would be left if you managed to extinguish it.

Plus, all that stuff will run off right into the bayou/ship channel and into the bay. Nothing good is going to come out of that.

But hey, we want no environmental regulations - yet at the same time we want to act like we care.

[nana053]

Note that the EPA has already been gutted. This is a bit old, but

https://www.outsideonline.com/232757...cal-explosions

The EPA bureaucracy, roughly 15,000 employees strong, lumbered into action. McCarthy’s point man on chemical plants, assistant administrator Marty Stanislaus, traveled the country to meet with company owners, plant managers, and first responders. Emergency workers told him that, as in West, they often had no idea what chemicals were burning in these accidents. Managers of well-run facilities told him how they prevented accidents. The process took more than three years. “I challenge anyone to have the same kind of dialogue that I had around the country,” Stanislaus says.

For five decades, this is how things have worked at the EPA. Rules are hammered out, haggled over, and tempered by the input of hundreds of stakeholders over months and years. Environmentalists threaten to sue because the regulations are too weak, companies threaten to sue because they’re too tough, and often both sides end up suing at the same time. As McCarthy puts it, the federal rule-making process is grueling and laborious, and that’s the point. “It’s not supposed to allow radical change,” she says, “nor are you supposed to interfere in the economy or human beings’ lives without good reason or in more than a moderate way. We have to have a reason for government intervention.”

The new chemical disaster rule—technically an amendment to the EPA’s Risk Management Program Rule—was exceptionally moderate. Completed in January 2017, it didn’t restrict storage of the chemical that decimated West, but it did mandate that facilities share information with first responders and make better emergency plans.

[TheMoreYouKnow]

Anyone know when the next Lina clown show is scheduled to take place?

[WRM20]

Originally Posted by TheMoreYouKnow

https://twitter.com/KPRC2/status/1108025748890230784

Seems like a great time to talk about laying off a few hundred firefighters doesn't it?

Those firefighter layoffs will happen in Houston, not Deer Park. These fires are fought by industry firefighters from all of the plants in the area through a mutual aid agreement, supplemented at times by the public fire departments.

[cBach]

Originally Posted by TheMoreYouKnow

So you support him learning as he goes?

Nope I voted for the experienced candidate. Years and years of experience and a former resident of the White House as well

[cBach]

Originally Posted by TheMoreYouKnow

This has nothing to do with Lina's age, this is about her lack of experience and how ignorant she looked on TV trying to fumble her way through that press conference.

You don't know how many press conferences Trump fumbled through that I was like "OMG is this our president, people in the world must think we're all idiots for electing this numbskull."

[cBach]

Originally Posted by TheMoreYouKnow

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/

Is there an event or emergency that took place where the White House didn't hold a press conference for? I'm not sure why you insist on trying to bring this back to the President, why do you refuse to talk about the topic of this thread, Lina Hidalgo (D)?

If you can dish it out you better be prepared to receive it