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Same amount of jobs, actually, you'll just have Americans filling them instead of the illegals. Which you'd prefer, because you like Americans more than other people.
Thats the way it should be. I DO prefer taking care of my American homies, NOT a bunch of illegal aliens.
No, you are arguing that we shouldn't let them legally come here and compete with the blue collared workers. Also, once again, these people aren't 'cheats'. They are sitting in their country still and you'd rather them stay so the blue collar workers don't have to compete. The excuse that they are 'cheats' is a convenient copout and might be valid if we were talking about amnesty but we aren't.
ILLEGAL aliens ARE cheats. Till things pick up; there needs to be LESS, NOT more immigration an NO illegals allowd to stay here in the USA.
I thought the anti-immigration rhetoric was that they are taking all the blue collar jobs. Good to see that that's not the case since both kids are working in manual labor positions. Now, are you trying to say the white collar unemployment issues are caused by illegals somehow? Explain.
What anti-"immigration" rhetoric? This is about illegal immigration. Yes, they are competing against Americans for jobs particularly in the blue collared group. Many if not most blue collared jobs do consist of manual labor so what is your point?
I get a kick out of the people who want gov't out of business, except when the owner hires someone they don't like. Then it's ok to abandon the idea of a truly competitive marketplace, gov't intervention is THE ONLY WAY to make sure those poor American folk can compete with unskilled, uneducated immigrants!!
You arguments are starting to sound a lot like another person in here and one who is no longer posting. Coincidence?
When it comes to labor laws government should be intervening to protect Americans. That doesn't mean that government should have a hand in everything as you are implying is the notion in here.
That's right! Our government should make sure that all workers are legal and that Americans don't have to compete with illegal aliens for jobs in their own country. Please stop using the word "immigrant". The topic of this forum is illegal immigration.
No, you are arguing that we shouldn't let them legally come here and compete with the blue collared workers. Also, once again, these people aren't 'cheats'. They are sitting in their country still and you'd rather them stay so the blue collar workers don't have to compete. The excuse that they are 'cheats' is a convenient copout and might be valid if we were talking about amnesty but we aren't.
Why on earth in your rational should we allow foreigners to come here even legally to compete with our own workforce especially with millions of Americans out of work right now?
Which part of our history do you want to consider "always"? Back when we didn't let the Chinese in? Or the Turks/Slavs/other S. Europeans? I'm guessing it won't be any of those periods when we really did let in everyone.
We no longer discriminate against anyone based on their nationality/race or ethnic group. So dragging up the past is irrelevant. We have immigration quotas today because we are no longer a wide open frontier with vast resources and space. We can only allow in so many immigrants per year based on our needs to accomodate them in jobs (where an American can't be found to do that job) our ability to accomodate them with resources and controlling our population growth.
Discrimination can work both ways. Today we take in more immigrants legally and illegally from Latino countries than any other. Why aren't you crying about that discrimination?
"The absolutely maddening question in all this is: With tens of millions of American citizens suffering so greatly, why in the hell are dingbat politicians, mostly, but not all, Democrats so anxious to spend money on illegal aliens, people who have no legitimate legal or moral basis for being here"?
Yet the same person will acuse anyone with a different set of "math" as a racist and call them all sorts of nasty names. People who see a different solution to this problem have already been called some "nice" names already on this thread.
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