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Old 09-24-2007, 12:05 PM
 
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If you are not for this bill, now is the time to fax, phone, or call the senators that are undecided.
They plan on voting on the bill by Thursday.
We are not winning at this point.

Grassfire.org News - A Blog by Grassfire.org Updates - How Senators Plan On Voting On Dream Act: FireSociety.com -- America's Grassroots Community: FireSociety.com -- America's Grassroots Community (http://www.firesociety.com/blog/107/17693/?src=111 - broken link)
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Old 09-24-2007, 05:53 PM
 
Location: In an illegal immigrant free part of the country.
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Exclamation CALL! FAX! EMAIL! This is THE week!

Capitol Switchboard: 202-224-3121 NumbersUSA (http://www.numbersusa.com/index - broken link)

Tell senate offices that you are well aware of the changes that have been made the DREAM Act amnesty and that you remain adamantly opposed to the amendment to the DoD authorization bill (SA 2919).


If the staffers try to tell you that their Senator is probably against the amnesty or definitely is, tell the staffer that NumbersUSA is reporting that at this minute the Senator has declined to make the pledge. Tell them that they need to call NumbersUSA to straighten that out. But also say that NumbersUSA is saying that many Senate offices are telling their voters that they probably will oppose the amnesty but are keeping their options open to still vote YES. If they want to be believed and for the massive phone calls to stop, they will need to publicly make the no-amnesty pledge to NumbersUSA or to one of our allied organizations on Capitol Hill.

(the DoD authorization bill is not an appropriations bill. Thus, if your opposition to include and amnesty in the bill delays passage of it, you will not be slowing down funding for our men and women in uniform)
Use the talking points in the WHY DO THIS column to the left to bolster your argument. We have provided additional talking points (should you need them) below.


Talking point: The DREAM Act does not Protect Americans from Terrorists and Criminals: Illegal immigrants are not required to submit fingerprints or undergo background security checks at any point in the DREAM Act process. Therefore, DHS has no way of learning whether an alien seeking DREAM Act amnesty is a terrorist or criminal. This security failure is compounded by the confidentiality section of the DREAM Act, which is a relic from pre-9/11 days (it’s modeled on the fraud-prone 1986 amnesty). This section basically requires DHS to hide information about terrorist and criminal aliens from itself. If a DHS adjudicator at USCIS learns from a DREAM Act application that an alien poses terrorist or criminal concerns, the adjudicator is prohibited from alerting ICE enforcement officers at DHS, and in fact, if the adjudicator did volunteer such information to ICE, he could be fined $10,000. To cap it all, DHS is prohibited from removing from the United States all aliens, including criminals, terrorists, fraudsters, and other ineligible aliens while they have a DREAM Act application pending, even if that application is based upon fraud or the alien is ineligible.

Talking point: The DREAM Act Will Allow Dangerous Criminal Aliens to Remain At Large in the United States: DHS lacks the resources to detain all criminal aliens it encounters in the United States, and so DHS has to pick and choose which criminals to hold for deportation. When DHS deports a criminal alien, the detention or “bed space” vacated by the out-going criminal is immediately filled by another criminal alien. The DREAM Act does not disqualify anyone (even criminals) from filing an application and bars DHS from removing any alien who’s filed an application for amnesty. Thus, criminal aliens who have no desire to be deported will file DREAM Act applications to halt or slow their deportations, which means they will spend more time taking up detention space which could be used to house other criminal aliens. That means more criminal aliens whom DHS cannot house will be free to roam the United States. The DREAM Act also creates an opportunity for extremely dangerous criminal aliens to be released into the general population. By law, a criminal alien who is subject to a final order of removal must be released from DHS custody within 90 days if his removal is not “reasonably foreseeable.” As mentioned previously, the DREAM Act does not allocate resources to DHS to process the millions of applications that are sure to be filed, which will result in very lengthy delays. The result? A dangerous criminal alien who would otherwise have been removed from the United States files his DREAM Act application, and when that application stalls at DHS with millions of others, he can file a petition in a district court after 90 days to effect his release because his removal is not “reasonably foreseeable.”

Talking point: The DREAM Act Puts Illegal Immigrants at the Front of the Line for Green Cards: The DREAM Act requires that applications for its amnesty must be expedited, bars DHS from charging fees for expedited service, and fails to provide DHS the additional personnel and equipment needed to handle expedited applications. Because millions of people will file applications for DREAM Act amnesty (regardless of whether or not they eventually qualify), DHS will experience a significant backlog of cases that will necessarily slow DHS’ ability to process conventional business and family visas, and applications for naturalization. This will adversely impact our economy, and disrupt the settled expectations of intending legal immigrants to the United States.

Talking point: The DREAM Act Offers Citizenship to Illegal Aliens Who Lack Good Moral Character: The DREAM Act does not require that aliens have a history of good moral character; it only requires that they have good moral character from the time that they apply. This means that criminal aliens, terrorists, and other aliens who lack good moral character before they apply get an amnesty for their pre-application period conduct, no matter how bad or extensive that conduct.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:17 AM
 
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Let's turn up the heat to defeat the DREAM Act once and for all!

Tell them that "no amnesty" means just that: "NO AMNESTY." Tell them that when it comes to the so-called DREAM Act, putting lipstick on a pig will not make the pig more appealing. Tell them that you are not fooled and that it is an INSULT to the American people to try to pass amnesty through the back door after being told an untold number of times that the American people DO NOT WANT AMNESTY!
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Old 09-25-2007, 10:19 AM
 
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LATimes says some american dreams are being filled, by illegals leaving in some areas.
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:21 PM
 
Location: In an illegal immigrant free part of the country.
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LATimes says some american dreams are being filled, by illegals leaving in some areas.
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The link did not work (you have to register) but thank for the news that many are leaving!
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Old 09-25-2007, 03:24 PM
 
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I copied the post, since the link didn't work.

Fewer migrants mean more benefits
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As immigration enforcement takes hold, jobs begin to open up to less-skilled Americans.
By Mark Krikorian
September 24, 2007
Immigration hawks have been on a winning streak lately. An unprecedented surge of public outrage at the prospect of amnesty for illegal immigrants led to the defeat in June of the Senate immigration bill and the probable end of President Bush's dream for comprehensive immigration reform. And that was merely the latest in a series of victories for supporters of tighter controls, including the Real ID Act of 2005, the Secure Fence Act of 2006, proliferating enforcement efforts at the state and local levels and a new package of modest but meaningful enforcement measures announced last month by the Department of Homeland Security.

What of the results? Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told The Times that "there will be some unhappy consequences for the economy out of doing this." While the enforcement climate is still too new to show results in government data one way or the other, Chertoff's prediction doesn't appear to be playing out. On the contrary, there is extensive anecdotal evidence that enforcement is actually having its desired effects: More illegal aliens are going home, leading to improved conditions for American workers and communities.

The first consequence of stepped-up enforcement is attrition of the illegal population -- a steady decrease in the total number of illegal aliens as more people give up and go home. Attrition is the real alternative to amnesty, and we're seeing it work.

The Arizona Republic ran a story last month explaining how migrants were leaving the state in anticipation of tough new immigration rules. Public radio station WBUR in Boston reported that "in the midst of the debate about immigrants coming to America, something unusual is happening in Massachusetts: Brazilian immigrants are quietly packing up and leaving." And the Chicago Tribune, reporting on the Pennsylvania town at the forefront of the resistance to illegal immigration, has written that "over the summer, when Hazleton officials created the nation's first ordinance aimed at driving away undocumented residents, thousands of people apparently packed up and left."

Far from having "unhappy consequences," these developments are improving the economic bargaining power of less-skilled American workers. The Rocky Mountain News reported that in Greeley, Colo., "the line of applicants hoping to fill jobs vacated by undocumented workers taken away by immigration agents at the Swift & Co. meat-processing plant . . . was out the door." New England Cable News reported that only after a raid on a plant making leather goods for the military in New Bedford, Mass., were Americans and legal immigrants able to get hired. As one new employee said of the raid: "In a way, you know, it's sad, and then in a way it's good because at least it gives people that were not employed for so many years . . . a break to be able to work and support their families."

When illegal aliens were removed from a Crider Poultry plant in Stillmore, Ga., the Atlanta Journal Constitution and the Wall Street Journal documented the benefits to local workers. The plant raised wages significantly, began offering free shuttles from nearby towns and provided free rooms in a company-owned dormitory. For the first time, Crider sought applicants from the state unemployment office and began hiring probationers and men from a local homeless mission. And, as the Journal noted, "for the first time since significant numbers of Latinos began arriving in Stillmore in the late 1990s, the plant's processing lines were made up predominantly of African Americans."

Better enforcement doesn't result only in economic improvements. While there is an ongoing scholarly debate about the overall crime rates of immigrants versus the native-born, there's no doubt that tougher enforcement has had a notable effect on gang activity. In an upcoming study, my Center for Immigration Studies reports that using immigration law against gangs has helped bring about a 39% drop in gang activity in the Washington suburb of Fairfax County, and Dallas police report a 20% drop in the murder rate as a result of the same initiative.



Of course, the consequence of uncontrolled immigration that most ordinary Americans see is what political scientist Peter Skerry calls "social disorder." Hazleton offers a good example: While cleaning graffiti from her building, a local locksmith told the Tribune that "about the same time the ordinance passed, the whole tone of the street changed. Virtually overnight, it was a totally different place."

As recent enforcement victories are sustained and expanded, we can begin to document the benefits in other areas: less stress on hospital emergency rooms, less-crowded classrooms, slower growth in government social spending. But the results we've seen so far are clear: We can get illegal aliens to return home, and doing so will improve conditions in American communities. Why didn't we start doing this a long time ago?

Mark Krikorian is executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a think tank that supports tighter controls on immigration.
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Old 09-25-2007, 03:29 PM
 
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I think I got the link this time.
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This is all that comes up. You have to register with the LA Times to read their newspaper.


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Old 09-26-2007, 12:38 AM
 
Location: Texas- moving back to New England!
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I went to Numbers USA and really let them have it !!!!

I wouldn't be suprised if I started getting un marked cars or vans sitting around my house now. Screw em, I said what I felt, and hope others do the same.
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Old 09-26-2007, 01:48 AM
 
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perfecttan01

Thanks for posting this wonderful report on how beneficial it is to be rid of illegal immigrants! Maybe there is hope for America and American workers.
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Old 09-26-2007, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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I've been sending those faxes from NumbersUSA too. Thank you to whomever posted that site several weeks ago. I had no idea it existed. Let's hope it works.
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