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Americans want to do the job and there are plenty of qulified Americans to fill the positions. It is a requirement that any job that is offered to an H1B visa has to be advertised and qulaified Americans considered for the position. They are ignoring that requirement and therefore breaking the law by hiring the H1B. Its a fraud commited on the American worker by Corporations and their HR departments so they can hire foreigners who will work at the very low end of the wage scale and put up with alot of unfair labor practices.
What's the problem? They're not talking about utilizing illegal aliens, they're talking about how to get their target employee legally into the United States. If an immigrant wants to come here and work, and they have a corporate "sponsor" that helps them get here legally, so what? If Americans don't want to do the job, then let someone who wants to do it come here (legally of course).
My interpretation is quite different. It is not simply a matter of employers getting their 'target' employees; it is absolute fraud. These people are deliberately circumventing the law to 'avoid' hiring U.S citizens. This is outrageous. Anyone who fails to see this as egregious employment practices; has a serious integrity problem.
I'd like to see the employers and big wigs that get caught with their pants down.
Me too!!!!
Doesn't sound like these folk are in professional management positions.
Historically, most racism comes out of fear. The hated group, usually an oppressed minority is seen as a risk to the already low status of the hating group.
The poor white in the south led the anti civil rights for "coloreds"
The poor Afrikanner could be counted upon to uphold apartheid.
The Nazis taught to hate the Socialists, Communists, Jews, came primarily from blue collar backgrounds.
Lenin counted upon the lowly factory worker to lead the fight against the aristocracy.
What's the problem? They're not talking about utilizing illegal aliens, they're talking about how to get their target employee legally into the United States. If an immigrant wants to come here and work, and they have a corporate "sponsor" that helps them get here legally, so what? If Americans don't want to do the job, then let someone who wants to do it come here (legally of course).
did you bother to listen to and watch the presentation. The intent of the seminar was to teach the HR people how to NOT hire a US worker.
That was said several times.
How in the world do you twist that to mean "If Americans dont want to do the job"
For some one who is an IT person for what 12 years now, that is a glaring example of no attention to detail dont ya think?
What's the problem? They're not talking about utilizing illegal aliens, they're talking about how to get their target employee legally into the United States. If an immigrant wants to come here and work, and they have a corporate "sponsor" that helps them get here legally, so what? If Americans don't want to do the job, then let someone who wants to do it come here (legally of course).
It may be legal but here is the problem; these corporations bring in workers and then dangle permanent visas over their heads while they demand different work standards of these workers. I have a friend that came here from Oman all totally legal under one of these so call programs at a big 8 accounting firm. They told him he must work no less than 68 hours per week. Problem... he only got paid a fixed salary. Legal slave labor.
Doesn't sound like these folk are in professional management positions.
Historically, most racism comes out of fear. The hated group, usually an oppressed minority is seen as a risk to the already low status of the hating group.
The poor white in the south led the anti civil rights for "coloreds"
The poor Afrikanner could be counted upon to uphold apartheid.
The Nazis taught to hate the Socialists, Communists, Jews, came primarily from blue collar backgrounds.
Lenin counted upon the lowly factory worker to lead the fight against the aristocracy.
What's the problem? They're not talking about utilizing illegal aliens, they're talking about how to get their target employee legally into the United States. If an immigrant wants to come here and work, and they have a corporate "sponsor" that helps them get here legally, so what? If Americans don't want to do the job, then let someone who wants to do it come here (legally of course).
This business of "we can't find an american who wants the job" or "is willing to work" or .."who is qualified" is a bunch of horse puckey.
I can show you right now, where there are tons of people looking for work right here in this country who ARE Americans.I should know, I hired them.
Might I add that the greedy guy who I used to work for (note ; not anymore) also asked to have immigrants hired because he wanted to save on his bottom line. He actually ended up spending more on those immigrants than he did on all those other guys, because they needed housing and transportation too!! And after all of that , they all , every one of them, left(and after a very short time I might add!!!) and took that money from our economy and back to their country, just adding more insult to the whole thing.I do not advocate it, and I will never work for that man again,NEVER!!!!
This is also why I am voting for Duncan Hunter, the only candidate for President that HAS initiated legislation to build that fence and DID build it in his jurisdiction..which REDUCED CRIME BY 90% immediatley after.
What's the problem? They're not talking about utilizing illegal aliens, they're talking about how to get their target employee legally into the United States. If an immigrant wants to come here and work, and they have a corporate "sponsor" that helps them get here legally, so what? If Americans don't want to do the job, then let someone who wants to do it come here (legally of course).
Oh, here we go again with the "Americans don't want to do the job" crap! Until this semester, my son was a Computer Engineering major at a major university. His advisor and other students who recently graduated advised him to change his major to Management of Information Systems in the College of Business.
Why? Because the Computer Engineering grads aren't being hired! Bill Gates and the gang are bringing in computer engineers from India and Pakistan at lower salaries. Our grads are sitting in cubicles writing computer code for hours on end, if they can even find a job doing that! One of my son's good friends just graduated in December with Comp. Eng. and had to go outside of his major to even get interviews.
Just to make sure my son wasn't getting bum advice, I called the university's small business development office locally and spoke with the director. He verified what my son was told and assured me that my son is making a good decision. Because of the change in major, he will have to go an extra semester to graduate, and he's decided to do an MBA, as well. He just may need to start his own business someday.
Our kids are working hard and going into debt to get their degrees and American companies still want to hire foreigners. It is NOT RIGHT!
I've never understood why people TAPE things so that their underhanded dealings can be picked up by someone who puts it on the internet. What fools. Didn't they think that maybe (duh) someone in that audience would see their BS and take this to the public?
I've never seen such a BLATANT disregard for the law, and for their fellow citizens. They are America haters, and they ought to be forced to go work in Mexico, and be paid like the peons.
What GALL. And, the guy acted like it was "ok" to do this, like it was business as usual, circumventing the law, for criminy sakes!
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did you bother to listen to and watch the presentation. The intent of the seminar was to teach the HR people how to NOT hire a US worker.
Here is the problem...
