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Old 01-10-2008, 11:49 AM
 
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Old 01-10-2008, 12:10 PM
 
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Of course 51,000 people are going to be apprehended, it's the border. The Border Patrol apprehended 1.2 million persons in 2005. There will always be people being apprehended, and people getting in. When citizens of illegal immigrant parents become of voting age, politicians are going to cool it on immigration slander, raids, and harrasment of hard working people.

California: Latinos 17.3% of electorate.
Florida: Latinos 16% of electorate.
Nevada: Latinos 9% of electorate.
New Mexico: 44% of electorate.
Texas: 16% of electorate.
Arizona: 16% of electorate.


This is 2008, not 1998, I'm sure fighting the immigration problem ten years ago would have been more successful. The voting numbers amongst Latinos will only increase, by birth and green card to citizenship. The gains George Bush made with Latinos were great, but the Republican party has hurt itself big time with Latino voters, because immigration is their number 1 concern. I will be shocked if the Republicans win Florida in '08.
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Old 01-10-2008, 12:25 PM
 
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That's some selective editing there, whoever cut a part of that video out wanted to cast a very different light on what Carrillo's 'speech' was all about.

Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, uncovered through the Freedom of Information Act a videotape (and transcript) of an August 15, 2007 town hall meeting on illegal immigration held in Laredo, Texas.

During the meeting, held at Texas A&M International University’s campus, US Border Patrol (USBP) Laredo Sector Chief Carlos X. Carrillo disclaimed the illegal immigration and narcotics enforcement missions of the USBP.

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"The Border Patrol’s job is not to stop illegal immigrants . . . The Border Patrol’s job is not to stop narcotics . . . or contraband or narcotics . . . the Border Patrol’s mission is not to do any of those things . . . The Border Patrol’s job is not to stop criminals . . . The Border Patrol’s job is to stop terrorists and terrorist weapons from entering this country," Mr. Carrillo stated.
The 'numbers' he cited were supposed to represent a 10 month span.

If you want to watch the whole video, go here:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive...rrilloClip.wmv
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The Laredo Sector, with 1400 employees drawing 80 million dollars a year in salaries,

....one would hope they'd be catching something, eh?
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Old 01-10-2008, 12:31 PM
 
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That's some selective editing there, whoever cut a part of that video out wanted to cast a very different light on what Carrillo's 'speech' was all about.

Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, uncovered through the Freedom of Information Act a videotape (and transcript) of an August 15, 2007 town hall meeting on illegal immigration held in Laredo, Texas.

During the meeting, held at Texas A&M International University’s campus, US Border Patrol (USBP) Laredo Sector Chief Carlos X. Carrillo disclaimed the illegal immigration and narcotics enforcement missions of the USBP.



The 'numbers' he cited were supposed to represent a 10 month span.

If you want to watch the whole video, go here:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive...rrilloClip.wmv
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asactly.. criminals... illegals=criminals
it is UNLAWFUL to sneak across the border... if you find nothing wrong with sneaking across... why don't you sneak across to the otherside... your already half-way there anyway...
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Old 01-10-2008, 12:34 PM
 
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I watched the news video.. 51,000 illegals... in ten months... times that by 10 years, and the millions of illegals they didn't catch!
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Old 01-10-2008, 12:47 PM
 
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I'm thinking that Carrillo's bosses took him to the woodshed for his remarks,

they probably didn't like that speech about what their job was supposed to be all about,

....witness this new quote from Carrillo:

(12/19/2007)
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Welcome to the Laredo Sector of the United States Border Patrol.
This office provides law enforcement support for the Southwest Border and Laredo.

This site provides Sector-related information, including Sector operations, Sector contact information, where our stations are located, and news.

It is a pleasure and privilege to be able to share an overview of the Laredo Sector.

The Laredo Sector is a multi-task law enforcement agency that has served the Southwest Border and Laredo since 1924. Our primary function is to enforce the immigration laws and prevent illegal entry of aliens into the country.

The Laredo Sector is an integral part of a great Border Patrol tradition and mission. We strive to partner with the community to improve the quality of life in the areas we serve. New projects, innovative ideas and a growing interaction with the communities are creating a great environment for the personnel of the Laredo Sector.

We look forward to providing you information about our initiatives and work commitment in maintaining the highest ideals and traditions of the U.S. Border Patrol legacy at the Laredo Sector.

Thank you for visiting the Laredo Sector web site.

Carlos X. Carrillo
Chief Patrol Agent
Welcome - CBP.gov
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Old 01-10-2008, 12:52 PM
 
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Fifty-one thousand is nothing. We have been invaded by millions. And we need to respond militarily.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:00 PM
 
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Fifty-one thousand is nothing. We have been invaded by millions. And we need to respond militarily.
Homeland Security Head Chertoff says they apprehended 8% less in the last reporting period, and that annual apprehensions are about the same as 1991.

Hmmm.....

.....and he attributed that 8% drop in apprehensions in the last reporting period to Bush's policy of deporting virtually all non-Mexican border crossers as fast as they are caught, deterring them and others in what had been the fastest-growing group of illegal immigrants.

Hmmm, non Mexican border crossers, ....the fastest growing group.....
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:12 PM
 
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I'm thinking that Carrillo's bosses took him to the woodshed for his remarks,

they probably didn't like that speech about what their job was supposed to be all about,

....witness this new quote from Carrillo:

(12/19/2007)
Welcome - CBP.gov
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I'm sure he was taken to the woodshed for those remarks. To say that the border patrol is only there to stop terrorists and not illegal immigration is contrary to the mission of the border patrol. The guy is a complete idiot for making such a statement publicly.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:21 PM
 
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Fifty-one thousand is nothing. We have been invaded by millions. And we need to respond militarily.
51,000 is twice the size of the town where my parents grew up -- think about the numbers here, pro-illegal advocates..
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