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Anyone that is an "undocumented worker" should contact the US state where they were born to get a copy of their birth certificate. Anyone working should have a social security number that is not stolen: Illegal, but Not Undocumented | Center for Immigration Studies So they won't just steal your job, they'll steal your identity.
Trump is still holding his own, more than holding his own in the polls and much is based on enforcing the laws of the US. Obviously, more people support the laws of the US than don't and in the end, nothing else matters.
If you followed the context you would see where their kind derives from. I am refuting the fact that he thinks we can deport people who have birthright citizenship and call it merely enforcing the law.
Perkins v. Elg Acevedo v. Lynch
Section 1401 U.S. Code Annotated
United States v. Wong Kim Ark
Wong Kim Ark was not about parents here illegally in our country. There have been several bills introduced over the years by the Republicans to end this nonsense practice. One just this year. None of them have any lingo in them to deport those who have erroneously been given our birthright citizenship already. They merely state that if the bill is passed from that point forward that nonsense PC practice will be not be in affect anymore. At least one parent will have to be a citizen or legal resident of our country in order for their offspring to gain our birthright citizenship. I fully support these bills.
Wong Kim Ark was not about parents here illegally in our country. There have been several bills introduced over the years by the Republicans to end this nonsense practice. One just this year. None of them have any lingo in them to deport those who have erroneously been given our birthright citizenship already. They merely state that if the bill is passed from that point forward that nonsense PC practice will be not be in affect anymore. At least one parent will have to be a citizen or legal resident of our country in order for their offspring to gain our birthright citizenship. I fully support these bills.
The point is I cited 4 different legal precedents or statutes from varying degrees of binding authority each of which said basically the exact same thing. In their discussion of the same Amendment and the same subsection.
There is a bill that would put a serious clamp on this issue, it's one that I think is actually well-rounded and thought out. I posted it earlier but it's from the January session and it's being dubbed the Birthright Citizenship Act.
I wish media actually covered substance instead of "New Reaction from X over events that transpired during Y, L is here discuss it as a liberal caricature and C will be discussing it as a conservative caricature... argue argue argue. /End Scene time for a Commercial Break.
The point is I cited 4 different legal precedents or statutes from varying degrees of binding authority each of which said basically the exact same thing. In their discussion of the same Amendment and the same subsection.
There is a bill that would put a serious clamp on this issue, it's one that I think is actually well-rounded and thought out. I posted it earlier but it's from the January session and it's being dubbed the Birthright Citizenship Act.
I wish media actually covered substance instead of "New Reaction from X over events that transpired during Y, L is here discuss it as a liberal caricature and C will be discussing it as a conservative caricature... argue argue argue. /End Scene time for a Commercial Break.
And they have all been refuted and proven wrong in this forum many times. Search for them. As I said, I am not going to keep this can of worms open once again. Cited is the bill below introduced by the House GOP. Probably the same bill you are talking about. I support it. Bet the Democrats won't.
Uh; I don't agree. MOST illegal aliens WILL leave; "Hispanic" or not, if the US started ENFORCING the laws against their kind. Too; stop birthright for kids born here unless at least 1 parent's a US citizen tho IF the other parent's here illegally, that parent WILL still need to leave.
Exactly don't give them a reason to stay and guess what!
It would be great if it were that simple but it isn't. There is no way anyone is going to deport somewhere between 15 and 20 million people. I believe in obeying the law, it ticks me off to see how many are here illegally, but we are not going to send them all back. I am not sure we should to be honest. First we need to find a way to keep them from entering the country. Then we need to stop all government benefits for them, no matter what except in the case of life or death. Then we need to get rid of every one of them who has broken the law, no matter how minor. No, I don't mean a traffic ticket. I could go on and on, but the point still remains, you can't send them all back; it is that simple!!!! And has your hero disclosed how many of those working on some of his projects are illegal? Does he check to make certain all the contractors he hires only employ legals? Of course he hasn't. All Trump is saying, is what he thinks his followers want him to say.
If you don’t have the stomach to deport the 11 million current illegals you won’t have the stomach to deport the next 11 million either. It is like the parent who can’t bring himself to disciplining his child and says if you do this one more time....
As for illegals working for Trump, if they could find just ONE so far, Barbara Walters would have him on her annual celebrity show.
I don't agree as even a traffic ticket should start the process of their deportation. If you are a citizen and have broken a law, are stopped by police, that don't just forget about other laws you have broken and actually use traffic stops to apprehend people for other offenses. You run one stop sign or light, go over the speed limit and you can be stopped. I don't understand why illegals should have more protections than US citizens.
Work place enforcement and cutting them off the public assistance teat, challenging the anchor baby myth are all easily within reach.
Can't speak for those I do not know, but for the ones who are friends and in laws, I will speak for them since I know them.
They are not all one in the same believe me. For the ones who have lived here a very long time, or born in this Country, they are voting for Trump, and here is the thing, some of the younger ones, yes I said younger, are getting there elder family members to also vote for him.
I said no way, and she said to me, yes we are. Because we want what is right for the Country, and believe that he loves the Country as much as he claims, and we need great again, her words to me.
Yes I believe her. They also have family who live in S.B. were the recent tragedy occurred and this has had a great impact on their life.
She also said, those who were born here, want the best for this Country, whether people believe it or not, yes I believe her. And she said a few things about the Democrat Party, Obama and Hillary that I will keep to myself
This is what so many on the left and pro illegal alien groups don't want to admit. I live in CA and there are a lot of legal Hispanics and people of Hispanic backgrounds that are US citizens here. Many of them do not want the constant flow of illegals coming here. It hurts everyone, including those that are here legally. Just because you are Hispanic ancestry, it doesn't mean you are pro illegal alien by a long shot.
The libs will never tell you this though.
This is what so many on the left and pro illegal alien groups don't want to admit. I live in CA and there are a lot of legal Hispanics and people of Hispanic backgrounds that are US citizens here. Many of them do not want the constant flow of illegals coming here. It hurts everyone, including those that are here legally. Just because you are Hispanic ancestry, it doesn't mean you are pro illegal alien by a long shot.
The libs will never tell you this though.
The libs? Really. I've been saying the same (just because you are of Hispanic ancestry does not mean you are pro illegal alien) on this board for a couple of years now and have been told here consistently by conservatives that I'm wrong.
The libs? Really. I've been saying the same (just because you are of Hispanic ancestry does not mean you are pro illegal alien) on this board for a couple of years now and have been told here consistently by conservatives that I'm wrong.
I don't recall anyone saying that "all" Hispanics are pro-illegal. But the truth is that many if not most of Mexican roots are and the majority of Hispanics in this country are of Mexican roots.
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