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Old 12-12-2016, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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In Miami you probably deal with illegals and overstays daily. You can report a company to ICE, but best they can do is do an I-9 inspection, unless they harboring or there are human rights violations/ trafficking or even imprisoment. Only criminal/ previously arrested etc. or known gang bangers etc get deported
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Old 12-13-2016, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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I work at a meat processing plant and I'm pretty sure most of the workers are illegals. Some of the worker's cars even have licenses plates from Mexico, Guatemala, and El Salvador.
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Old 12-14-2016, 06:36 AM
 
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I work at a meat processing plant and I'm pretty sure most of the workers are illegals. Some of the worker's cars even have licenses plates from Mexico, Guatemala, and El Salvador.

Obama put an end to those work place raids. Hopefully they will be re-implemented with the new administration.
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Old 12-14-2016, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Bakery in town hired all illegals , they slept there too. They were baking everything and the front where they sold the items were all Americans.. Not one could speak English. I called the bakery and I couldn't get anyone to talk English. Eventually the place closed down . There was a write up in the paper about all illegals sleeping there and the place was dirty.
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Old 12-14-2016, 08:10 AM
 
Location: In the house we finally own!
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You could have learned Spanish and some killer recipes from Hispanic Americans or legal immigrants.
Very true, however that is not who I was working with. As a newly separated single parent with two small kids to take care of, you take whatever job you can get to survive. I am not condoning the fact they were illegal, I am sure there were lots of legal folks that needed those jobs. Unfortunately, the owner of the restaurant cared only about making lots of money and getting free labor to clean and maintain their mansion, as well as cheap labor to work in their business.
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Old 12-14-2016, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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Very true, however that is not who I was working with. As a newly separated single parent with two small kids to take care of, you take whatever job you can get to survive. I am not condoning the fact they were illegal, I am sure there were lots of legal folks that needed those jobs. Unfortunately, the owner of the restaurant cared only about making lots of money and getting free labor to clean and maintain their mansion, as well as cheap labor to work in their business.
What you said reminds me. I have twice during helped immigrants with Green Cards get out of working for cash under the table, and get a real job paying taxes. They took whatever job they could find, which turned out to be working among illegals, because that's all they knew. In both cases, I helped them find real jobs and become taxpayers.
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Old 12-14-2016, 10:03 AM
 
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What you said reminds me. I have twice during helped immigrants with Green Cards get out of working for cash under the table, and get a real job paying taxes. They took whatever job they could find, which turned out to be working among illegals, because that's all they knew. In both cases, I helped them find real jobs and become tax payers.

I'm a little confused here. The ones you helped find jobs we legal immigrants? If so, that's not a problem. I think that legal immigrants should have jobs secured before coming here and that it can be proven that an American wouldn't take the same jobs for a fair wage. Illegal aliens do take jobs that Americans will do, however.
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Old 12-15-2016, 01:04 AM
 
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If you think undocumented construction workers are making less than minimum wage, you're incredibly misinformed and out of touch.
Really? Sounds like you know something many of us don't. Please fill us in.
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Old 12-15-2016, 01:06 AM
 
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"Illegal alien" construction workers may not be making less than minimum wage but they are making less than Americans who were already doing those jobs for a fair wage. If not, then what would have been the incentive for hiring "illegals"?
Precisely.
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Old 12-15-2016, 01:34 AM
 
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That's just splitting hairs. Illegals have taken over blue-collard jobs in "collusion" with their greedy employers. I have never said otherwise. if they weren't here though those employers wouldn't be able to hire them. No one forces them over the border to work here. They know what they are doing is wrong. If I am "encouraged" to break the law I'm not at fault if I do so? I am well aware that the greedy employers hire them to increase their profits but they and their illegal hires are equally to blame.


Why pay a citizen a fair wage for those jobs instead of hiring cheap, illegal workers? It's against the law, that's why!
Actually, I think you and I agree on a lot. Which is amusing. The illegals would not come if the employers didn't hire, and they do hire for less than what legal blue collar workers would take. If the jobs were not available they wouldn't come anymore. It would take awhile for it to slow down since we're talking about rumors and info making it's way down to extremely rural areas of Mexico and Central America. "Nobody is hiring in the Norte" I imagine could take up to a year, maybe longer. I'm not sure I agree with your statement about in collusion. When you have absolutely nothing...no money, no power...nothing but poverty and desperation, and rumors that traveling north will solve everything (not knowing what we know, that it won't), I wonder about the definition of collusion since one side (the employers) has the power, the other (illegals) are depending on the power side holding up to the agreement.
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