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Old 02-06-2017, 04:35 PM
 
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Illegal citizens do not qualify for benefits, their children do. And what kind of pro-life people have a problem with feeding children no matter what country they're from. You care about life or you don't, compassion does not have conditions.
The fact is if Canada welcomes and pays for them they'll go there instead of here if we don't . They just won't come here. Nobody wants to hurt children, and if you're using that below the belt crap nobody will take you seriously.

America has it's own poor kids they can't feed. Why take money from them to give to illegals? Why not let them go somewhere else for a change. Canada looks willing and ready to take on our problem, we need a break.

The American children in our south live like they're in a third world country, why is that?

One in three black children are poor and don't eat. Why not allow Canada to feed illegals and take care of our own. Why doesn't this make sense?
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Old 02-06-2017, 04:40 PM
 
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The fact is if Canada welcomes and pays for them they'll go there instead of here if we don't . They just won't come here. Nobody wants to hurt children, and if you're using that below the belt crap nobody will take you seriously.

America has it's own poor kids they can't feed. Why take money from them to give to illegals? Why not let them go somewhere else for a change. Canada looks willing and ready to take on our problem, we need a break.

The American children in our south live like they're in a third world country, why is that?

One in three black children are poor and don't eat. Why not allow Canada to feed illegals and take care of our own. Why doesn't this make sense?
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There is no such thing as a free ride. Welfare reform under Bill Clinton made it so you can only collect cash welfare for five years maximum, it doesn't matter if you have 15 kids after the 5 years, you get no more cash. You also have to search for work, documented, at least 30 hours per week, go to school, or volunteer. You're an idiot if you think anybody lives a life of luxury off of welfare. It is far more lucrative to work.
It is, and a lot easier for Americans to find work that actually pays a living wage and uses labor laws than it is for an illegal.
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Old 02-06-2017, 04:54 PM
 
Location: NYC
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The truth isn't funny. The truth is that illegal aliens cost us $113 billion a year and that includes what taxes they do pay into the system.


Trump as a business man is only taking deductions that he is lawfully entitled to. If you don't like the fact that he has no tax liability at the end of the year then take it up with the IRS as he is doing nothing unlawful.


If Americans got their jobs back they in turn would be paying into SS. How are illegals paying into SS without using a fake or stolen SS number? Those are felonies. The foolish ones are those who defend illegal immigration as it is against the law and costing us in so many way.

Starting every conversation with a falsehood, or rather fake news is how you immediately discredit yourself. Just because Trump does it doesn't mean you should follow in his footsteps, but i doubt I'll change your mind. So this is what I would suggest to you, find an even more outlandish number, like 300 billion, which is what another right wing website reported. Heck, go for broke, say that illegal immigrants are costing us 1 trillion dollars ever fourth quarter. Who can argue against that, right?
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Old 02-06-2017, 05:14 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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More winning, another promise kept.
If you actually believe that I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
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Old 02-06-2017, 05:32 PM
 
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Trump's administration said to be preparing Executive Order taking welfare away from illegal and legal immigrants. Legal immigrants are not suppose to be able to get welfare already but the system is abused with little oversight. So it would seem that the free ride is finally coming to an end, except maybe for the free ride back to their home country. Trump's Draft Executive Order Could Deport Immigrants For Being Poor | The Daily Dot
Bravo cut off the money source.!


You know 18Monclair is out raged! Tear!


If we can deport them by regular channels cut all benfites! If they are on the public Help they are no longer a asset to America.


That money should be for Americans!
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Old 02-06-2017, 06:05 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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If you actually believe that I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
Your only hope is a judge pulls it out of his arse,,,again.
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Old 02-06-2017, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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These threads are always so funny. Inevitably, you get a whole bunch of ppl coming out and claiming how much of their tax dollars are being "stolen" by "illegals." Forget about the fact that Trump has bragged that he hasn't paid taxes in 18 years, when illegal immigrants pay many billions of dollars in taxes every year completely negating any federal services they use, but rather adding to the social security fund you will get when you retire. You look completely foolish and just beyond gullible.
You must be a liberal. Legal vs. illegal. Legal vs. illegal. Legal vs illegal. Are you getting it yet? You really need to stop listening to liberal media. They are selling you all out and making you look, well, ignorant of the realities of illegal immigration.

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uh, by definition, these aren't 'American People', caspie.
They aren't going to get this any time soon.

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There is no such thing as a free ride. Welfare reform under Bill Clinton made it so you can only collect cash welfare for five years maximum, it doesn't matter if you have 15 kids after the 5 years, you get no more cash. You also have to search for work, documented, at least 30 hours per week, go to school, or volunteer. You're an idiot if you think anybody lives a life of luxury off of welfare. It is far more lucrative to work.
Actually, you are wrong. They do continue to collect welfare. And, no, they don't have to search for work under certain conditions and illegals aren't supposed to be searching for work, they simply depend on the anchor babies to bring in the monthly check and other benefits. Illegal aliens are not eligible to work in the USA.

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Illegal citizens do not qualify for benefits, their children do. And what kind of pro-life people have a problem with feeding children no matter what country they're from. You care about life or you don't, compassion does not have conditions.
In your dream only! Illegal aliens (these people are not citizens of the USA) live in government subsidized housing, one anchor lands the whole family there. Pregnant illegal aliens get maternity care from conception to birth. Illegal aliens use emergency room services at 3 times the rate of American citizens and the cost if picked up by Medicaid, the taxpayers.

2 billion a year in emergency services: How Undocumented Immigrants Sometimes Receive Medicaid Treatment | PBS NewsHour

Medicaid for Illegal Immigrants | Emergency Medicaid

The Cost of Welfare Use By Immigrant and Native Households | Center for Immigration Studies

Many illegal immigrants live in public housing - USATODAY.com

And, I am betting you are one that likes to call them "undocumented" which leads to yet another way they rob the taxpayers:

Illegal, but Not Undocumented | Center for Immigration Studies

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Starting every conversation with a falsehood, or rather fake news is how you immediately discredit yourself. Just because Trump does it doesn't mean you should follow in his footsteps, but i doubt I'll change your mind. So this is what I would suggest to you, find an even more outlandish number, like 300 billion, which is what another right wing website reported. Heck, go for broke, say that illegal immigrants are costing us 1 trillion dollars ever fourth quarter. Who can argue against that, right?
Fake news? No this didn't come from liberal media.

The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on United States Taxpayers (2013)
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Old 02-06-2017, 07:27 PM
 
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Starting every conversation with a falsehood, or rather fake news is how you immediately discredit yourself. Just because Trump does it doesn't mean you should follow in his footsteps, but i doubt I'll change your mind. So this is what I would suggest to you, find an even more outlandish number, like 300 billion, which is what another right wing website reported. Heck, go for broke, say that illegal immigrants are costing us 1 trillion dollars ever fourth quarter. Who can argue against that, right?
What falsehood? What fake news? I have a source for the $113 billion that illegals cost us. I don't stretch the truth maybe you do and that's why you assume I or others do it. This research was done way before Trump ever came on the scene.


Illegal Immigration a $113 Billion a Year Drain on U.S. Taxpayers
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Old 02-06-2017, 07:30 PM
 
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Illegal citizens do not qualify for benefits, their children do. And what kind of pro-life people have a problem with feeding children no matter what country they're from. You care about life or you don't, compassion does not have conditions.
Being pro-life (anti-abortion and killing babies in the wound) has nothing to do with objecting to the anchor baby fiasco or supporting illegal foreigners on our soil.
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Old 02-06-2017, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Being pro-life (anti-abortion and killing babies in the wound) has nothing to do with objecting to the anchor baby fiasco or supporting illegal foreigners on our soil.
So your post shows you are not only obsessive about immigration but about abortion as well. And of course the erudition comes through..."wound"? Is that where you RWs keep fetuses? in wounds?

Instead of doing it the old fashioned way you carve a hole and inject?

Your posts indicate you need a new hobby. Maybe try knitting...a dozen ***** hats and your mind may jump into gear.
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