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This is the illegal immigration forum. Trump not disclosing his taxes has nothing to do with it. He was being audited and IMO no politician should have to make their tax returns public anyway. If there is anything being claimed illegally on anyone's tax returns it is up to the IRS to handle it.
Yeah right, like left wingers don't tow the party line.
Illegal citizens do not qualify for benefits, their children do. And what kind of pro-life people have a problem with feeding children no matter what country they're from. You care about life or you don't, compassion does not have conditions.
I am pro-choice NOT pro-birth, and my compassion for others' children is outweighed by my disdain for law breakers.
The topic of birth control pills is not an illegal immigration topic but since you brought it up, IMO everyone should be responsible for paying for their own birth control not the taxpayer. There are however agencies and private organizations that may provide it for free.
It has everything to do with it because more kids they have here the more money they will get from welfare system, and the better chance they will not be deported. Welfare for each Anchor baby is about $100k 18 years on the system. $30 a month in contraceptive or 100k in welfare you choose. It's not going to work in all cases some just not use the contraceptive but it will help. The real fix to the situation is to modify the 14th Amendment.
Employment and 14th amendment is the 2 things that cause illegal immigration until you fix those things nothing will change. Trump's supporters have no clue how illegals are using the welfare system.
It has everything to do with it because more kids they have here the more money they will get from welfare system, and the better chance they will not be deported. Welfare for each Anchor baby is about $100k 18 years on the system. $30 a month in contraceptive or 100k in welfare you choose. It's not going to work in all cases some just not use the contraceptive but it will help. The real fix to the situation is to modify the 14th Amendment.
Employment and 14th amendment is the 2 things that cause illegal immigration until you fix those things nothing will change. Trump's supporters have no clue how illegals are using the welfare system.
Trump supporters are well aware how illegals are using our welfare system. Not sure where you are getting that they don't. Myself and other conservatives have posted many links depicting that they are. Illegal aliens aren't likely to use birth control even if it is provided to them as they know having many babies here is the key to helping to support themselves.
I agree that the misinterpretation of the 14th needs to be cleared up and the employment magnets removed. However, deterring them at the border should be a part of the solution also. Once they make their way in here it is hard to root them out. Also, criminals and terrorists aren't looking for jobs or welfare handouts.
I am pro-choice NOT pro-birth, and my compassion for others' children is outweighed by my disdain for law breakers.
One would think that those expressing such compassion for the children of illegal aliens would also be demanding that US citizens now in prison with their children in foster care be released immediately! Sadly, children of criminals suffer.
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It has everything to do with it because more kids they have here the more money they will get from welfare system, and the better chance they will not be deported. Welfare for each Anchor baby is about $100k 18 years on the system. $30 a month in contraceptive or 100k in welfare you choose. It's not going to work in all cases some just not use the contraceptive but it will help. The real fix to the situation is to modify the 14th Amendment.
Employment and 14th amendment is the 2 things that cause illegal immigration until you fix those things nothing will change. Trump's supporters have no clue how illegals are using the welfare system.
Most of the illegal aliens are Catholics, more the hardcore type that don't practice birth control or use the rhythm method. They are not going to be interested in birth control, just like our citizen bottom feeders, because a baby increases the benefits.
I am a Trump supporter and know others and we know EXACTLY how illegals are using the welfare system.
I have posted links to it in this forum literally hundreds of times at this point. I live among it, so I have a bird's eye view. I lived for 6 years in the Tucson area. We have relocated several times, and I research the areas before we move. I can say that AL was the only state that impressed me when it came to illegal aliens, and I am still celebrating Jeff Sessions being confirmed as Attorney General in combination with my continual celebration of the election of Donald Trump as our President.
I had a neighbor who was limiting their family to one child because of the expense even though they really wanted a second child. When I shop on welfare weekend, the store is loaded with non-English speaking families with 5 or 6 kids each, "stair steps", they also fill the school arriving with no English and the medical clinics. They are using a program at school meant to feed our own homeless citizens because "many families have had other families move in with them", and I know exactly what that means. Illegals pack themselves like sardines in houses. Two bedroom houses with 6 cars outside and then since they can't get food stamps for them, they milk the funds for our own homeless citizens. I was told "Well, they aren't exactly homeless." Yeah, you bet they aren't, they have a home country and they need to load them up and pack them out!
I did. Get back with us when illegals don't cost us billions of dollars whether it be $113 or 20 billion or 5 billion. There is no denying that they do cost us billions of dollars above and beyond any of their so-called contributions. The 11 million number that are supposedly here is outdated also. There are far more than that.
Why are you focusing on the costs anyway? The bottom line is that they are here in violation of our immigration laws and that's all the argument we anti-illegals need.
I did. Get back with us when illegals don't cost us billions of dollars whether it be $113 or 20 billion or 5 billion. There is no denying that they do cost us billions of dollars above and beyond any of their so-called contributions. The 11 million number that are supposedly here is outdated also. There are far more than that.
Why are you focusing on the costs anyway? The bottom line is that they are here in violation of our immigration laws and that's all the argument we anti-illegals need.
Immigration laws are real only to the degree they are funded and enforced. We do not fund them at a level anywhere near that required. So no they are not in violation...the laws are no longer functional when not funded.
And there is no intent to fund to the level needed to enforce the laws. And it is not clear it would work if they were. The problem has simply been allowed to grow past the point at which it is fixable.
Immigration laws are real only to the degree they are funded and enforced. We do not fund them at a level anywhere near that required. So no they are not in violation...the laws are no longer functional when not funded.
And there is no intent to fund to the level needed to enforce the laws. And it is not clear it would work if they were. The problem has simply been allowed to grow past the point at which it is fixable.
Talk about twisting of the truth! They are in violation of the Immigration Laws of the United States of America as you know. So, using your logic, selling illegal drugs is no longer against the law because the enforcement is not funded and enforced, right? Any law that doesn't have adequate enforcement, it is the fault of our country, so the criminal has not committed a crime?
What you'll see is that the law will be enforced. There won't be a big press conference where Trump makes an announcement that we will now start enforcing the laws, they will just be enforced. He has taken the handcuffs off of border patrol.
I suspect as a few get deported with just the shirt on their backs, others will load up the wagon and haul tail home or so goes my dream!
Seriously, not in violation of the law because there isn't enough enforcement?
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