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Old 05-24-2018, 06:23 AM
 
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The politicians have to have enough votes to pass it. The people have to convince their Reps and Senator to vote the way they want. Did you not know this?
They already claim to support it. They just have no desire to actually do it. Can't tick off those with the money.
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Old 05-24-2018, 06:56 AM
 
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I have no desire to chase down your rabiit hole.
It's the core topic of discussion and you responded in this thread.

"WH petition to require e-verify"

I agree because...

I disagree because...
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Old 05-24-2018, 08:55 AM
 
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Why any fools would think that the Republicans who own the big businesses that use immigrants (like....construction guys....like Trump) would support cracking down on their own profits...is sheer madness.

And anyone who didn't know this the first time Trump opened his pie hole is foolish.
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Old 05-24-2018, 09:49 AM
 
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Why any fools would think that the Republicans who own the big businesses that use immigrants (like....construction guys....like Trump) would support cracking down on their own profits...is sheer madness.

And anyone who didn't know this the first time Trump opened his pie hole is foolish.
It has nothing to do with Trump but they are not going to do anything. They will continue to make the promises and people will continue to vote for these failed promises. (the (D)'s do the same thing)
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Old 05-24-2018, 10:44 AM
 
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Why any fools would think that the Republicans who own the big businesses that use immigrants (like....construction guys....like Trump) would support cracking down on their own profits...is sheer madness.

And anyone who didn't know this the first time Trump opened his pie hole is foolish.
You are aware that there are democrats who also "own the big businesses" and engage in similar behavior, so why are you acting like it's only republicans?
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Old 05-24-2018, 10:48 AM
 
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No, not really. We need both !

We already have countless laws against them. Guess what? They don't care and will ignore these also w/fake docs.

You think that landscapers,outsourced construction, etc.. are going to abide by this? What would be effective is banning remittances by illegals, taxing remittances going into Mexico and fining/jailing employers.

Also amend seizure laws that when illegals are caught by seizing property and assets to help w/deportation costs.
Great post If I could, I would have repped you again.

To which I would add---also heavily tax remittances to other countries like the banana republics (El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, etc.) Even better, tax all remittances going out of the country, no matter where. Not only have federal taxes on it but allow states to also tax it. Money that is going out of the country is money that's not being put back into our economy.

Those who think a wall is unnecessary are naive people who believe illegals are all sweet, innocent people who only want to work. They are unaware that many sneak in here to do harm to others. So, I agree---the wall is quite necessary.
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Old 05-24-2018, 12:52 PM
 
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Great post If I could, I would have repped you again.

To which I would add---also heavily tax remittances to other countries like the banana republics (El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, etc.) Even better, tax all remittances going out of the country, no matter where.
They won't have qualms about sending cash.

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Not only have federal taxes on it but allow states to also tax it. Money that is going out of the country is money that's not being put back into our economy.

Those who think a wall is unnecessary are naive people who believe illegals are all sweet, innocent people who only want to work. They are unaware that many sneak in here to do harm to others. So, I agree---the wall is quite necessary.
There are far better and less expensive solutions that those who want a wall have no desire to do. A wall is nothing more than smoke and mirrors to keep the status quo.
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Old 05-24-2018, 12:56 PM
 
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Signed it! This is a bipartisan issue. Legal residents and citizens have to prove they are authorized to work.

Maybe this would force lawmakers to create a guest worker program for agriculture whereby foreigners could work for a specified period, not allowed to bring family members in. Perhaps withhold their final paycheck until they return to home country.
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Old 05-24-2018, 12:59 PM
 
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There are far better and less expensive solutions. A wall is nothing more than smoke and mirrors to keep the status quo.

That's why you never lock your doors and post "Keep Out" signs instead.
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Old 05-24-2018, 04:07 PM
 
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They won't have qualms about sending cash.



There are far better and less expensive solutions that those who want a wall have no desire to do. A wall is nothing more than smoke and mirrors to keep the status quo.
And when e-verify is brought up it gets dismissed, because it wasn't implemented right away. you just can't win.
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