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View Poll Results: Who is MOST to blame for this wave of illegal immigration?
The Mexican Government 2 6.45%
The United States Government (including federal, state, and city government) 16 51.61%
The illegal aliens themselves 2 6.45%
The illegal alien advocates who live here 2 6.45%
Businesses who hire the undocumented 6 19.35%
Other/No opinion 3 9.68%
Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-23-2008, 10:52 AM
 
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First, the situation today could not have occurred without the US allowing it to happen. But ask, who gains from the presence of the undocumenteds here?

*Farmers seeking cheap, part-time labor and the consumers who eat farm produce.

*Meat packers, assemblers and other factory operations seeking cheap labor. The customers of the factories.

*Seasonal employers, employers with dirty, dangerous jobs.

*Businesses which are profitable because they use a workforce that doesn't complain about conditions or sue. Consumers who buy cheap products from those businesses.

So, undocumented workers are an integral part of the US economy. The entire country gains from their low-paid work. Those who are most to blame are the people who ignore this fact or refuse to make any changes in the situation.
The entire country does not gain - just ask the citizens who have had their neighborhoods destroyed.
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:21 AM
 
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I voted for the aliens themselves. Its like who is to blame for an alcoholic's problems. Is it the manufacturer of the alcohol, the gov. for allowing the distribution and sale, the clerk for selling it, the spouse for enabling the behavior. Or is it the alcoholic for making the decision to drink knowing full well the ramifications. What has happened to personal responsibility?
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:54 AM
 
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I voted for the aliens themselves. Its like who is to blame for an alcoholic's problems. Is it the manufacturer of the alcohol, the gov. for allowing the distribution and sale, the clerk for selling it, the spouse for enabling the behavior. Or is it the alcoholic for making the decision to drink knowing full well the ramifications. What has happened to personal responsibility?
Buying alcohol is not illegal and the consequences of alcoholism mainly fall on the alcoholic himself, although his immediate family is usually impacted.

ILLEGAL immigration is infinitely more invasive and is created by the jobs magnet provided by the employers of illegals. This illegal labor is only "cheap" for the employers of illegals because the American taxpayers totally SUBSIDIZE this so called cheap labor.
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Old 04-23-2008, 02:57 PM
 
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Still dosent take the ultimate responsibility off the individual aliens. If I break the law it is my decision and my responsibility regardless of what my motivation was.
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Old 04-23-2008, 09:50 PM
 
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Still dosent take the ultimate responsibility off the individual aliens. If I break the law it is my decision and my responsibility regardless of what my motivation was.
True, they knew when they crossed that border or overstayed that visa that they were committing a crime. When it's time for them to be deported and find that they won't be coming back legally for at least 10 years, they can look at their own actions as the reason.

It's the same for us if we go illlegally into another country. If we are caught there are consequences and we would have to look at the choices we made.
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