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Would you like for illegals to run through a minefield to get the jobs that American companies hand to them? What would be the logic in that? If the government doesn't deter employers from hiring these people, they have failed, our companies have failed, this is definitely a human rights issue.
This is some weirdo stuff that people complain about, you know your companies and government lure these people in, take responsibility for this failure and not allow people to die.
Like many others before me, I too believe the companies hiring the illegals need to be severely punished but the corruptness of the companies does not excuse the illegal aliens from their responsibility to adhere to the laws of a sovereign nation.
The people who cross the border illegally are just as responsible for what happens as are the companies that "lure" them here. Let them take their share of responsibility for the failure and deal with the repercussions of their actions.
I'm sick and tired of people who think I should be happy with less quality of life because of those who think they are entitled to something. That I should feel I owe someone something because they want it. I don't have much to begin with and will soon have less as my job is being outsourced to India. I will be unemployed...I wonder how many social services will be available for ME if I need them.
And I don't think I deserve something JUST because I was born here but also because I play by the rules and know I need to EARN what I get.
Unfortunately: till the pro illegal alien apologists get kicked in their collective (financial) balls; they are self centered and clueless at best.
You have a twisted view of this issue. I'm sure you can picture the Mexican with drooping mustache and gold tooth just laughing at you. Evil, evil poor people!
Did you predict you would become the affluent one that hated those poorer than you?
I never predicted that all of us would be competing with peasants from Mexico and Guatemala for our tax dollars that's for sure.
Like many others before me, I too believe the companies hiring the illegals need to be severely punished but the corruptness of the companies does not excuse the illegal aliens from their responsibility to adhere to the laws of a sovereign nation.
The people who cross the border illegally are just as responsible for what happens as are the companies that "lure" them here. Let them take their share of responsibility for the failure and deal with the repercussions of their actions.
Illegals have to cross many canals if they are on foot. In the desert in many areas like El Centro there is a canal every quarter mile. They know they will be caught if they cross where it is safe(like a bridge) so if they put up another fence they will still attempt to cross at the same spots.
Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and Jamaica must be REALLY xenophobic places. They don't dig CANALS to keep people out....they have a whole OCEAN. Anyone attempting to sneak in there would drown!
OK, all joking aside: As a long-time veteran of the public water field in California, I have some familiarity with concrete-lined canals; they're death traps. Almost impossible to escape once you're in, what with algae, etc. And the escape ladders are often far apart; even worse, the ladders are usually on alternate sides, slimy, and steep. If you're exhausted, it's unlikely you'll be able to use one anyway. I once personally rescued a dog from a canal. He was terrified, and near death. It wasn't easy.
Granted, canals kill. So do freeways, so do railroad tracks, and so do cliffs. So does heat, and so does thirst. But no one is FORCED into any of these situations; there is a way NOT to die in any of these ways. Dogs may have no common sense; people do.
I've had a long relationship with illegals; I knew MANY illegals, long ago, before they were 'news'. I've even been related to a few.
That was then; this is now. Illegal immigration was once a 'minor issue'. It no longer is.
If you want to stay safe, stay out of canals. Don't hop freight trains. Don't enter underground storm drains. Don't dart across freeways. I wish I had a more encouraging bit of advice, but I don't. Illegal immigration today is a nasty business, but blaming canals isn't the solution. Canals aren't designed for human beings. Avoid them.
Can you point to a single post on this forum in which somebody has advocated torturing and/or killing people?
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I was wondering if I had blinked and missed it.
I guess you do a lot of intentional blinking for your side. Lets see what the search button turns up.
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All the more reason to close/lock our border with Mexico with 'shoot-to-kill' orders issued to LE.
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All the more reason to close/lock our southern border and issue 'shoot-to-kill' orders to our Border Patrol if an illegal trying to cross our border does not stop when ordered to do so.
Memo to illegal aliens: the word 'Stop' you had best learn............or else.
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Yes, in a perfect world! How I'd love to apply for that job; an automatic rifle and plenty of ammo!
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I don't value criminals lives. If I was in the situation. I would be looking trying for a head shot...the last thing you want is for your tax dollars paying for medical care for another illegal. Like we say in Texas, " Shoot to Kill"
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As you stated.
What we need is a Berlin style wall complete with death strip, watchtowers and US Gov't personnel with 'shoot-to-kill' orders.
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The way things are going: it is fast becoming time to find out.
Needless to say: a double wall with a plowed strip between them would make for a 'shooting gallery'.........read that once an illegal cleared the inner fence then he may be home free--------unless picked up by regular LEO.
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If it means physically fortifying our southern border and issuing our BP 'shoot-to-kill' orders to shut off the flow of illegals-----------so be it.
We want those illegal alien criminals out of the USA.
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Fortify our southern border and issue 'shoot to kill' orders to our border patrol----------problem solved.
As for your race insinuation: Mexico treats illegal aliens from Guatemala like crap so do us all a favor and put your (expired) 'race card' away.
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The first thing I would do is to have another Operation Wet****!!! While that was going on I would call our troops back from Germany and Korea and send lots of them to the borders with shoot to kill orders.
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Okay, imagine this scenario:
The US economy has collapsed, unemployment is 30%, and the government is falling apart. In desperation, the army seizes power, suspends the constitution, and dismisses the government. The new ruler declares as one of his first acts to fix the crisis, to make all illegal aliens enemies of the state. Futhermore, he retroactively strips citizenship from all descendants of illegals, and their children as well, and authorizes anyone to arrest and/or kill them should they be discovered.
If finally given the opportunity, would you yourself use force to finally drive the invaders and their spawn out of our land for good?
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I think force should already have been used.Sooner or later it will be if our government continues to NOT do its job and protect AMERICAN CITIZENS FIRST.
To whom it may concern: we have the right to defend our borders against invasion------------up to and including using lethal force.
Concerning illegals already in the USA: provided they leave without fuss; they would not be hurt............if they forcibly resist------------all the bets are off.
I guess you do a lot of intentional blinking for your side. Lets see what the search button turns up.
Perhaps you aren’t aware of the difference between defending our borders from foreign invaders, which in fact should include lethal force; and indiscriminate torture and murder.
BTW, what happens to foreigners caught illegally in Mexico? Oh, that’s right, they are now more lenient. Now, they don’t sanction rape, murder, and robbery of illegal foreigners. They are now more “humane” in hopes of having amnesty for their remittances, I mean, citizens.
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) so if they put up another fence they will still attempt to cross at the same spots.
