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Old 06-19-2011, 06:39 PM
 
Location: London
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Is there a way to document the current content of a website with an un-disputable date and time, before the owner of the site changes the content?
Let's just say that someone has some info up there that isn't supposed to be there. A screenshot won't suffice because it isn't sufficient proof of the date and time that you captured the content. Does anyone know how to do this?
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Old 06-19-2011, 08:19 PM
 
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Install a .pdf printer program (CutePDF Writer) a free program that acts like a printer, but saves the print output to a .pdf document. Print the webpage (url & date and time will be included as a header) to the CutePDF Writer. This saves it as a file, then email that file to yourself or someone trusted, and the timestamps on the emails will further verify the date and time.
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Old 06-19-2011, 08:21 PM
 
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Install a .pdf printer program (CutePDF Writer) a free program that acts like a printer, but saves the print output to a .pdf document. Print the webpage (url & date and time will be included as a header) to the CutePDF Writer. This saves it as a file, then email that file to yourself or someone trusted, and the timestamps on the emails will further verify the date and time.
That will not stand up either in a state or federal court of law.

How does one prove that the saved web page was not spoofed to begin with?

How does one prove "un-disputable date and time" when date/times can be manipulated?

Time stamps on emails can be spoofed as well..

The OP should contact a lawyer before wasting his time.

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Old 06-19-2011, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Install a .pdf printer program (CutePDF Writer) a free program that acts like a printer, but saves the print output to a .pdf document. Print the webpage (url & date and time will be included as a header) to the CutePDF Writer. This saves it as a file, then email that file to yourself or someone trusted, and the timestamps on the emails will further verify the date and time.

Ditto.

And you might also add the source code, too, as a .txt file, for comparison to their backups prior to any editing.
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Old 06-20-2011, 04:47 AM
 
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I'm not a lawyer but you'd need something more than a copy you have made yourself, I know that pages from archive.org have been used in lawsuits in the past. This is a third party. Be the same thing with Googles and other serach engines that cache pages assuming the site owner hasn't prevented caching but that disappears if the page changes and Google indexes it again.



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Install a .pdf printer program (CutePDF Writer) a free program that acts like a printer, but saves the print output to a .pdf document. Print the webpage (url & date and time will be included as a header) to the CutePDF Writer. This saves it as a file, then email that file to yourself or someone trusted, and the timestamps on the emails will further verify the date and time.
This is all editable and could be changed at any moment.

I can edit this page on my local machine real time if I wanted too.



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