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Old 09-06-2011, 08:13 AM
 
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6 ways Washington could create jobs - Yahoo! News

Obama can have 10 different plans, all which would help the economy, but unless Congress will vote YES, then no plan will pass.

Wall Street won't give the politicians months and months, to negotiate and argue.
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Old 09-06-2011, 12:16 PM
 
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2 simple things they can do.
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1. ban naked shorting and if you are caught fail to deliver = jail not civil offense it = criminal from then on out.

anyone and any broker colluding in this practice will face jail time and business being shut down with fines of bankruptcy.

this excludes legitimate shorting

also if you raise margins on longs for anything and everything like gold/silver at comex you must raise margins on the short sellers as well.

all is fair then.

second.

2. ban hft or send a 3 sec rule where you cannot change your orders. thus limiting computer abuse of the system front running insider info etc. many have suggested this already as a possible solution.


ALSO.
if you want to make the system more fair? how about dismantle SEC they are totally worthless anyway.
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Old 09-06-2011, 03:05 PM
 
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6 ways Washington could create jobs - Yahoo! News

Obama can have 10 different plans, all which would help the economy, but unless Congress will vote YES, then no plan will pass.

Wall Street won't give the politicians months and months, to negotiate and argue.

A Couple of Things here . . .

Your link is about jobs -- your question is about the Stock Market?

Those are two very different things. Often with opposing interests.

Hitting your Link List:

Whole Lot of Stupid in that One List.

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1. Create a national infrastructure bank
"Investing in our infrastructure not only strengthens our long-term global competitiveness, but creates jobs for Americans looking for work," says Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.) in The Wilmington News-Journal. Congress should set up a national infrastructure bank to jumpstart building projects by offering low-cost financing. A public-private infrastructure bank is backed by everyone from President Obama to the Chamber of Commerce, with both Republicans and Democrats on board, says Jim Abrams for the AP. But even if it passes, it will take time to set up, and thus may not have "any real impact on the jobs situation" for a year or two.
Great. More Banks. More Loans. More Debt. More Defaults. More Bailouts. Super.

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2. Approve a new, bigger stimulus
To really dent unemployment and restart the economy, says Robert Reich at The Huffington Post, we should spend "another trillion dollars over the next two years" on federal projects and lending to cash-strapped states. Yes, creating "a million temporary jobs in a federally administered, direct jobs creation program" would spark a major recovery, says Michael Winship in the Canandaigua, N.Y., Messenger Post. Forget it, says Brian Darling at the Heritage Foundation. "There's no way Congress is going to pass another Obama stimulus plan."
Could be something good, but this plan is Epic Level Stupid.

Build MORE Roads and Bridges for yet MORE cars that burn Oil which have driven US into deeper and deeper debt.

Mind Numbing Stupid.

Instead build equipment that would Take US OFF Oil.

Really, how hard is this to figure out?




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3. Cut back on regulation
"If Washington is truly interested in creating jobs and stimulating our economy," says Mike Bucci in Virginia's Richmond Times-Dispatch, it will scale back the 150,000 pages of federal regulations that "hamper or eliminate business' ability to create jobs in the United States." Small businesses are the backbone of the economy and "the job creators for our nation." They can't afford to hire full-time lawyers or accountants to make sure they comply with regulations. Less government rules will free businesses to spend their money on new jobs, not regulatory compliance.
Biggest Load of Crock on the list.

"Cutting back on Regulations" is how we got into this De-Regulated Banking driven mess.

Instead, slap some serious re-regulation back on -- start with restoring Glass-Steagall.



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4. Invest in job training
There are about four unemployed workers competing for each job, says Suzy Khimm in The Washington Post. But in certain industries — manufacturing, health care, and engineering, to name a few — "employers are actually struggling to fill jobs that are increasingly demanding higher skills." One interesting pilot program in Georgia takes people who are receiving jobless benefits and places them at companies, giving the workers on-the-job training at no cost to the employer or state, and little extra cost to the federal government.
Sounds like they are talking about cutting out the need for Student Loans to pay for over-priced training?

Banks (and therefore their stocks) will throw a fit.

But overall, cut all education pricing and the entire US could go to school without Loans, Benefits, and Gimmes and most everyone would be better off.



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5. Punish outsourcing
"Creating jobs isn't cheap or easy," says Elizabeth Rose in the Winona, Minn., Daily News. But we can't make any headway as long as we keep losing jobs. The government can do its part by insisting on "buy-American provisions in all government procurement contracts" and getting China to play fair. But "we need the private sector to help, too." Big businesses need to "stop shipping jobs overseas" and hoarding their cash. Americans are "some of the hardest-working people in the world," and it's time to invest in us.
Punish Outsourcing?

They have been PAYING for outsourcing via OPIC, NAFTA, and the various Trade Deals, and are looking to expand more. btw, this would bring stocks down as it may harm Transnational Corporate profits.

Overall, a Tariff could cover and end all of this.



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6. Revamp the tax code
Let's face it: "Ours is not a tax system that encourages job growth," says Sen. Coons in The News-Journal. Congress should focus on tax policies that help small businesses grow and innovate while making sure "corporations pay their fair share." Remember, says Gail Russell Chaddock in The Christian Science Monitor, that "with the agenda still shaped by spending cuts, compromises on tax reform may be the only viable route to funding new stimulus spending."
The pols -- and the total toady servants of the Corporations aka the Tea Party are NOT going to raise taxes on the Corporations.

They will kill the US first.

Many claim they want to set Corporate Taxes to zero.

Again, Tariffs would handle most of this.

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Man, that is one whole lotta crap in one "news story."
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Old 09-06-2011, 03:49 PM
 
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[quote=Philip T;20767594]A Couple of Things here . . .

Your link is about jobs -- your question is about the Stock Market?

Those are two very different things. Often with opposing interests.

Hitting your Link List:

Whole Lot of Stupid in that One List.
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Jobs and stock market up and down are 100% related.
No job growth = recession = market goes down.
Deep recession can cause a bear market in stocks, and a bad recession can turn into worse.
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Old 09-06-2011, 03:52 PM
 
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[quote=howard555;20762089]6 ways Washington could create jobs - Yahoo! News

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All 6 of those should be implemented this week........!

If you are not in the stock market, then go ahead and led Washington bring on the next crisis.
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Old 09-06-2011, 04:44 PM
 
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Jobs and stock market up and down are 100% related.
No job growth = recession = market goes down.
Deep recession can cause a bear market in stocks, and a bad recession can turn into worse.
All that may seem intuitively so.

But intuition and the real world (as if stocks are the real world) are not always the same things.

In many cases, lay-offs (which of course increase unemployment) can make a stock, a sector, and sometimes a broad market go up. From what I follow, it is supposed to indicate cost-cutting which is supposed to represent a path to higher profits.

Not saying that is a good thing, just the way things tend to work. That higher profits path is a large part of what is being claimed a "recovery" is a relatively jobless recovery.
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Old 09-06-2011, 07:20 PM
 
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The price earnings ratio of the S&P, historically is 14 or more.
It's around 12 right now, assuming earnings of $95 and the S&P is at 1165.

12 x 95 = S&P of 1140.
Some analysts are saying the P/E, the market is willing to accomodate, may be as low as 10. That would be S&P 950.
A worst case scenario, reported tonight by a well known analyst on Kudlow, said $83 in earnings, worse case, for a fairly bad recession. And he mentioned S&P 950. That would be a P/E of 11.45 and not 10.0.

More optimistic analysts are using $105 in S&P earnings. The P/E you give that level of earnings, creates a wide range for the S&P.
P/E of 10 is 1050.
P/E of 12, still below historical, would be S&P 1260.

So, we either go up 10% or down 10%-20%. The way they calculate GDP, there is no telling if we are really growing above 0.00%. We'll see when the initial 3rd Q GDP comes out in late October.

Analysts say investors should get used to lower P/E's.
Many stocks have already gone there, HPQ, MSFT, and others have P/E's under 10.

I hope we can hold the important 1100. If not then 1020-1000-950 may be on the way.
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