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Old 04-04-2018, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Boston
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this is all part of negotiations, Trump is 3 steps ahead of these talking heads spewing their nonsense everyday.
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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I'm in favor of having a contingency plan in case of a worst case scenario.
Isn't that called a "put"?
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:11 PM
 
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They say the stock market precedes the real economy by 12 to 18 months.
No, they don't.
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:18 PM
 
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Wage growth has been stagnant really for more than a decade
Yet total compensation has grown. Why? An ever-increasing slice of the total compensation pie is going to health insurance premiums paid by the employer.
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:21 PM
 
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...what i disagree with is this narrative on this board and on CNBC that his tweeting will have any material long term impact on the stock market...it's noise....just like most of the other headlines people blab about....
Agreed. All of this is noise.
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:25 PM
 
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Agreed. All of this is noise.
We need to revisit this thread when we enter a prolonged bear market.
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:36 PM
 
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We need to revisit this thread when we enter a prolonged bear market.
Bear markets are born on euphoria, grow on grinding economics, mature on recession and die on panic.

You actually think we are in a state of euphoria?
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:43 PM
 
Location: moved
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Bear markets are born on euphoria, grow on grinding economics, mature on recession and die on panic.

You actually think we are in a state of euphoria?
We're in a state of ridiculousness. A sizeable portion of the investing-public absolutely abhors this market, and have done so for a decade. Many people - and not just ardent partisans - abhor this administration. When have politics and economics ever been this closely tied? When have non-problems been so suddenly magnified?

Amidst the din, we keep forgetting, that the US stock market really hasn't done all that well cumulatively, over the span of 20 years; and most other stock markets have done considerably worse. Yes, 2017 was an abnormally fine year. But have we forgotten what came before it?
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:54 PM
 
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We're in a state of ridiculousness. A sizeable portion of the investing-public absolutely abhors this market, and have done so for a decade. Many people - and not just ardent partisans - abhor this administration. When have politics and economics ever been this closely tied? When have non-problems been so suddenly magnified?

Amidst the din, we keep forgetting, that the US stock market really hasn't done all that well cumulatively, over the span of 20 years; and most other stock markets have done considerably worse. Yes, 2017 was an abnormally fine year. But have we forgotten what came before it?
the market has tripled in the last 10 years....hopefully people keep "abhorring " it!

and the market "hasn't done that well over the last 20 years"?

If you put a million dollars into SPY in 1998 it would be work 2.5 million inflation adjusted today

In 2017 the S and P was up ~21%....thats the average return in a bull market

Politics and economics have the same relationship they always have.It's just now we have so many people's political bias blinding their investment philosophies.
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:59 PM
 
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the market has tripled in the last 10 years....hopefully people keep "abhorring " it!

and the market "hasn't done that well over the last 20 years"?

If you put a million dollars into SPY in 1998 it would be work 2.5 million inflation adjusted today

In 2017 the S and P was up ~21%....thats the average return in a bull market

Politics and economics have the same relationship they always have.It's just now we have so many people's political bias blinding their investment philosophies.
Is your s&p 2017 return including dividends/ reinvestment?
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