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Old 11-28-2011, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Actually, you're not correct. Only literalist Christians believe in the creation story word for word. Catholics and mainstream Protestants have typically accepted that Evolution and their beliefs are not contradictory.
I think that's true.
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Old 11-28-2011, 07:12 PM
 
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Well, obviously the school wasn't prepared, and how could preparing for such a thing even be imagined.....Imagine a question on an application with all the necessary prerequisites that says....Are there any lectures or class's which you refuse to attend...or...examine particulars you refuse to answer due to personal taste?

Who admits who anyway? Why are applications accepted?....

What about good students who worked their brains out for admittance only to fall a hair line shy of a probable congested list of applicants? Working at a job and faithfully studying all subjects,,trying to get the high marks for acceptence

This is a disgrace in the interest of fairness to all the supporting family's as well. My nephew is in medical school now and it wasn't easy for him getting in, as we all can imagine .

Can u imagine a law student that says...oh sorry Im from such and such Island and we as toddlers are rewarded for theft, so I'll take a pass on all the case study concerning a premise of non acceptance to thieving....issues concerning history in capital punishment comes to mind....How about accounting? an argument against some particular tax law concerning church or whatever....Its up to the schools, to get on to an admittance which address's the problems.

...1) upsetting the structure and order of the learning environment

....2) interfering with the projected expectation of expertise in graduates

.....3) interfering with legitimate enrollment as discussed above

......4) firm expulsion rules for those who defy the integrity of course outline in any way what so ever

.....5) open to revision at all times for special cases, with zero refunds where expulsions are required in order to off set above damages

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Old 11-28-2011, 07:15 PM
 
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A real conundrum for the left.....

"Do we teach creationism or insult islam?"

Hmmmmmm..........
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Old 11-28-2011, 07:37 PM
 
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Neither, you educate toward best abilities in the representation of the worlds finest and most knowledgeable . Debates on curriculum integrity and worthy participation are for academic advisory boards, not the students. Who's teaching who anyway?

No different then working for a company...if you don't like it...open your own business....or if you don't like the cooking....why go to the restaurant? Unless of course you want to aggravate and disrupt the flow of buisness.
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Old 11-28-2011, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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A real conundrum for the left.....

"Do we teach creationism or insult islam?"

Hmmmmmm..........
Go ahead and teach Creationism, since avoiding Islamic ire is impossible.
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Old 11-28-2011, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Go ahead and teach Creationism, since avoiding Islamic ire is impossible.
It seems this is a case of confused students. As Muslims it is their responsibility to fully check out the curriculum of any school they plan to attend. If they do not agree with it or believe it is sinful, they should not apply.

Sort of like a Muslim taking a job in a liquor store. He shouldn't and if he takes it he is obligated to sell liquor or leave the job.

Sort of like a Baptist enrolling at a Catholic Seminary to learn how to be a Preacher, and than boycotting or protesting the theology class because it does not use the KJV to teach
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Old 11-28-2011, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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It seems this is a case of confused students. As Muslims it is their responsibility to fully check out the curriculum of any school they plan to attend. If they do not agree with it or believe it is sinful, they should not apply.

Sort of like a Muslim taking a job in a liquor store. He shouldn't and if he takes it he is obligated to sell liquor or leave the job.

Sort of like a Baptist enrolling at a Catholic Seminary to learn how to be a Preacher, and than boycotting or protesting the theology class because it does not use the KJV to teach
So does that mean that Muslims should not enter into or be involved in anything to do with modern medicine since it relies on evolutionary science?

How do MDs cope with this in Muslim nations?

Do you agree with this backward stance?
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Old 11-28-2011, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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So does that mean that Muslims should not enter into or be involved in anything to do with modern medicine since it relies on evolutionary science?

How do MDs cope with this in Muslim nations?

Do you agree with this backward stance?
Most med Schools are up to date and most med students have no disagreement with studying evolution. It is a working module of how things function. We may not agree on it's accuracy. but there is no sin to understand it is the basis for the medical field,

A very large number of Muslim Students that come to the USA do so for Med School. these protests are somewhat recent and uncalled for.


Evolution was long taught by Muslim scholars, one of the foremost Muslim scientists taught a form of evaluational theory very similar to Darwin, 1000 years before Darwin.

You can read a short Biography of Al-Jahiz HERE
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Old 12-02-2011, 05:16 AM
 
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Evolution was long taught by Muslim scholars, one of the foremost Muslim scientists taught a form of evaluational theory very similar to Darwin, 1000 years before Darwin.

You can read a short Biography of Al-Jahiz HERE
So was there a Fatwa on Al-Jahiz's head for his herecy?
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Old 12-03-2011, 04:45 AM
 
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It seems this is a case of confused students. As Muslims it is their responsibility to fully check out the curriculum of any school they plan to attend. If they do not agree with it or believe it is sinful, they should not apply.

Sort of like a Muslim taking a job in a liquor store. He shouldn't and if he takes it he is obligated to sell liquor or leave the job.

Sort of like a Baptist enrolling at a Catholic Seminary to learn how to be a Preacher, and than boycotting or protesting the theology class because it does not use the KJV to teach
In today's PC world, the liquor store would be forced to refrain from selling liquor during the employees shift.

What have we become.
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