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Old 01-28-2015, 10:17 PM
 
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Michelle Obama face blurred out In Saudi Arabia.
Are you shocked? I mean we have got to understand people traditions when go to their country, don't we?
ISIS Praises Saudi Media for Blurring Out Michelle Obama’s Naked Face | The Gateway Pundit
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Old 01-28-2015, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Saudi does not allow the showing of any woman's face in Saudi Arabia.
The same would have been done in the Saudi media regarding any women.

What does this have to do with Islam. this is the law of Saudi. Like all Nations Saudi is an independent entity and represents no nation except it self.
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Old 01-29-2015, 04:30 AM
 
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I suppose the hijab and niqab have nothing to do with Islam.
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Old 01-29-2015, 05:52 AM
 
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I suppose the hijab and niqab have nothing to do with Islam.
The hijab and niqab while presently pretty much representative of Islam are also used by some, Druze, Yazidi, Jews, Christians, and other religions
The blocking out of women in photographs seems to be unique to Saudi.
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Old 01-29-2015, 06:04 AM
 
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The hijab and niqab while presently pretty much representative of Islam are also used by some, Druze, Yazidi, Jews, Christians, and other religions
The blocking out of women in photographs seems to be unique to Saudi.
Or Orthodox Jewish newspapers...

I don't particularly appreciate the Saudi government's rigidity on these sorts of things, but what do you expect from a nation that was steeped in a specific brand of fundamentalism from its founding? There are plenty of other Islamic nations that don't go to these extremes, so clearly this is not an Islam issue, but a Saudi Arabian issue.

-NoCapo
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Old 01-29-2015, 08:44 AM
 
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Michelle Obama face blurred out In Saudi Arabia.
Are you shocked?
Not at all.

I didn't see the picture with her face blurred out, but if that is all they did then they are at least acknowledging that she was there. People from other religions remove all of the women from pictures before publishing them.

See this discussion in the Judaism forum:

Ultra-Orthodox Jewish newspaper removes all women out of Paris solidarity march photograph
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Old 01-29-2015, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Or Orthodox Jewish newspapers...

I don't particularly appreciate the Saudi government's rigidity on these sorts of things, but what do you expect from a nation that was steeped in a specific brand of fundamentalism from its founding? There are plenty of other Islamic nations that don't go to these extremes, so clearly this is not an Islam issue, but a Saudi Arabian issue.

-NoCapo

This is a good place to make note that the KSA (Kingdom of Saudi Arabia) is a fairly new country coming to be in 1932.
Mecca and Medina were in the nation of Hijaz until it was conqured by the al-Saud family.
In the early 1800s the al-Saud family was exiled from Hijaz and Najd for heresy because of their Wahabbi beliefs.
Here is a Timeline to the KSA
BBC News - Saudi Arabia profile - Timeline

Everyone can decide on their own if the al-Saud family represents Islam.
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Old 01-29-2015, 11:29 AM
 
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This is a good place to make note that the KSA (Kingdom of Saudi Arabia) is a fairly new country coming to be in 1932.
Mecca and Medina were in the nation of Hijaz until it was conqured by the al-Saud family.
In the early 1800s the al-Saud family was exiled from Hijaz and Najd for heresy because of their Wahabbi beliefs.
Here is a Timeline to the KSA
BBC News - Saudi Arabia profile - Timeline

Everyone can decide on their own if the al-Saud family represents Islam.
Precisely! The House of Saud has been linked by ideology and marriage to the descendents of Al Wahhab, the founder of the Wahabbi form of Islam. Saudi Arabia is not representative of an Islamic culture per se, but rather a Wahhabi culture, tempered by the political necessities of maintaining an authoritarian dynasty as absolute monarchs. To argue that Saudi Arabia is the stardard by which Islamic culture must be judged is simply wrongheaded.

-NoCapo
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Old 01-30-2015, 01:34 AM
 
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Why hold up Michelle Obama to one standard, while woman in the past who visited Saudi Arabia were not?

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Hillary Rodham Clinton covered her head in Eritrea, the West Bank and Pakistan, but did not in Saudi Arabia.
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When Bush traveled to Saudi Arabia as first lady in 2007, she went bareheaded in public almost the entire time.
For first ladies, dress decisions require a primer on political protocol | Dallas Morning News
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Old 01-30-2015, 02:38 PM
 
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Precisely! The House of Saud has been linked by ideology and marriage to the descendents of Al Wahhab, the founder of the Wahabbi form of Islam. Saudi Arabia is not representative of an Islamic culture per se, but rather a Wahhabi culture, tempered by the political necessities of maintaining an authoritarian dynasty as absolute monarchs. To argue that Saudi Arabia is the stardard by which Islamic culture must be judged is simply wrongheaded.

-NoCapo
Mecca is in Saudi Arabia, and the Saudi have a huge influence in the Muslim world, that is one reason why people would tend to refer to this country when comes to Islam. But make no mistake, whenever any Muslim country or any group of Muslims act ,people will generalize from a sample to the whole population of Muslims.This way of judging others does not only apply to Muslims, it happens on issues other than religion for instance between Blacks and Whites, between Mexicans and Whites.
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