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With certain positions you already know the salary range which is why some don't list it. The job I have now didn't list the salary but i knew the range just not the actual number. But I knew it was enough for me to get off unemployment.
i am ok with a range, too. i just don't like it when they don't give any indication of what the job pays, which is most of the time, at least at the jobs i'm looking at.
We ask for references at the time of application and a waiver to be signed for a background check at the time of interview. Salary is not really negotiable and included with the job posting.
The hiring manager generally calls references only after determining who they want to hire, and background checks are done after references come back with satisfactory results.
Then the job is formally offered.
We are very clear that this is our process, and the hiring manager will generally give the leading candidate a heads up before the reference checks start.
Thanks for the feedback that's reasonable. The companies I referenced prob. do the same but didn't explain that.
Thanks for the feedback that's reasonable. The companies I referenced prob. do the same but didn't explain that.
Happy to help.
I don't think anybody contacts references unless they are very serious about a candidate. Reference checks can be even more time consuming than the interview itself. I really would not worry too much about wearing out your references good will, unless you apply for a lot of jobs then turn down the offer.
Most places ask for references on the application but won't contact them until they are in the final stages of hire.
One exception is staffing agencies who will send your references of managers to their sales dept and will not hesitate to call them up and harass them without even having a job for you. They rationalize this as having candidates prescreened and ready to go but it is a great way to burn out your references.
I do not release references or any background check info till I get an offer.
Well you won't be getting many job offers then because the person who interviewed you want to hire you, they ask for references before the offer is made.
I don't hear of a offer being made before references are checked.
i am ok with a range, too. i just don't like it when they don't give any indication of what the job pays, which is most of the time, at least at the jobs i'm looking at.
The range wasn't listed in the ad but I knew what it was because of having similar positions in the past.
The range wasn't listed in the ad but I knew what it was because of having similar positions in the past.
well, in the field i'm in, the salaries vary hugely, so that doesn't really apply.
in my job search, i've found similar jobs with similar responsibilities in the same geographical areas that range anywhere from the mid 20s to the mid 40s.
so no, i have no way of knowing what a job pays just by looking at the ad. it might be $12 an hour, it might be $22. i'd rather not waste my time on the $12 ones
well, in the field i'm in, the salaries vary hugely, so that doesn't really apply.
in my job search, i've found similar jobs with similar responsibilities in the same geographical areas that range anywhere from the mid 20s to the mid 40s.
so no, i have no way of knowing what a job pays just by looking at the ad. it might be $12 an hour, it might be $22. i'd rather not waste my time on the $12 ones
I'm so glad that I didn't go through that long 5 month hiring process to find out that the salary was below my expectations. lol
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