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Old 05-29-2013, 03:43 PM
 
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Yes. Also, most employers understand how this works. They're not going to be offended because you threw out a higher number than the number that's in their head, they'll just throw out a lower one, and you can take it or negotiate (or pass on the job because their highest number is below your lowest number).

If you throw out a number that is way beyond the market rate, you are creating a bad image of being arrogant and having no idea about your value. No employer wants a person like that on their team, and they would be offended.
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Old 05-29-2013, 03:50 PM
 
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If you throw out a number that is way beyond the market rate, you are creating a bad image of being arrogant and having no idea about your value. No employer wants a person like that on their team, and they would be offended.
Not nearly as frustrating as going through the interview process to find out that this person thinks they're worth $70K for a $40K job!

With all the resources out there now for salary comparisons, etc. you should have a solid idea of what "market rate" is going into the process.
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Old 05-29-2013, 05:37 PM
 
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Telling someone that "you have to act like this", when that's not them, is just about the worst possible advice ever.
thannnnnk you.

i've gotten flak on here before for advocating that people be honest.

i mean, almost every interview requires a little bs. like you're not going to say you're looking for a job because your boss is horrible or whatever.

but it's really important to remember that you're not just selling yourself, you're evaluating your own fit for the job, and whether you WANT the job or to work for this person. unless you are desperate and need to find work to survive, there's no point in getting a job you're going to hate. and it's never a good idea to get a job that you are not going to be able to do.

some employers value people who like to work independently. if that's the kind of environment where you thrive, don't lie to please the places that do everything in teams.
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Old 05-29-2013, 05:39 PM
 
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oh also, many online applications don't allow you to type in words for your salary expectations. they have number-only fields, or dropdown menus.

anyway, as much as i argue that employers shouldn't ask this question (i think they should just list the damn range in the ad and save everyone the trouble), they are asking it for a reason, and they want a number. i don't think trying to circumvent that makes a good impression.

by the way, today i had, for the second time, someone ask me in an interview what my expectations were for salary and then say "oh good! we're paying much more than that" and name a number. so while some places might use your salary expectations to lowball you, it's hardly a universal practice.

both of these places were nonprofits so that might be part of it.
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Old 05-29-2013, 06:01 PM
 
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Market wage? What are you suppose to say when they question that?

What does market wage mean to you? Would you be ok with this? If not, why did not write market wage because that is what market wage means to us.

Market wage is wayyyyy to vague IMO and wayyyy to easy for interpret in so many ways. I'm extremely precise with my wage. If its a job I know I want, the last thing I want to affect my status is my salary. Judge me based off my knownledge, customer skills, etc, not solely based off my money. Plus, why waste your time going after a job that you can't afford? Interview experience only goes so far...

I'm a firm believer in thank you emails. I think it lets them know you are truly interested and willing to make that extra effort. Plus, it keeps you longer in their memory. I don't see any possible con and minor pros. Even a minor pro is better than nothing. If its a job you really want, why not do it?
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Old 05-29-2013, 06:13 PM
 
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Thank you emails certainly can't hurt, but probably won't help. This has never influenced my hiring decision one way or another.

For salary, throw out a number. Make it on the high side of what you want and move on. People know that this is negotiable. If they are offended by your number, it is good to know now rather than later, because if you are not close now, you will not be close later.
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:04 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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I had to go through an interview to get into my private college. I got accepted because I was the only student who sent them a thank you letter. That's what the interviewer told me on my first day. So yes, it helped me when I was borderline. With that said, I only send thank you letters to positions I'm really interested in.
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:31 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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My interview tip is to stay calm and speak with a powerful voice. Not shout but make sure you are heard. I also like to refer to them by their first names whenever possible. It sort of levels the playing field like I am their equal.
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Old 05-29-2013, 10:08 PM
 
Location: NJ
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What I've learned is that since all interviewers are different there really are no blanket rules. Interviewer A might be unhappy with any talk about personal life. Interviewer B might be thrilled that you love the Dallas cowboys and like hiking. Whatever it takes to make a connection and get remembered.
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Old 05-30-2013, 06:31 AM
 
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Never try to sell yourself as someone you are not.
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