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Old 10-03-2013, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I have known HR reps who have special email addresses just for folks to send resumes, as to not clog up their personal Inbox at work. I don't know if they personally go through each and every email, but I did have an interviewer tell me a couple of months ago that it was my cover letter that got her attention. She told me it was the most well-written, inclusive cover letter she'd ever read. Unfortunately, I didn't get that job, but it did make me feel better about my cover letter!
was your cover letter long & elaborate? or short and to the point?

I used to write long and elaborate letters but lately I've been favoring short and strait, I feel like it's easier on both the myself and HR;


I am writing in response to the '55555 – GIS Analyst' position offered via Indeed.com on October 2, 2013.

At ***** University, I acquired exemplary knowledge of theories, principals and methods pertaining to the use of Geographic Information Systems and cartographic production. With my immense geospatial skill-set, I can quickly and efficiently adapt to fit the needs of any objective.

My attached resume will provide more details about my qualifications and I would welcome an opportunity to further explain why I am a good fit for this position.

I appreciate your time and consideration.
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:26 PM
 
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It makes no difference.

Sure, if you apply for some server position at Joe's Bar it may make a difference, but then you actually have no idea when anyone checks there email; just because someone is at work does not mean they are checking their emails, or if it will even be in order.

Any legitimate employer is going to have fairly strict standards as far as applicants go, especially those who are federal contractors. You think this is the case shows you have little knowledge of the hiring process.
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:29 PM
 
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Thanks!...I know I'm not completely crazy haha. I'm going to keep doing this, really can't hurt & based on your input it might actually be beneficial. I feel like If I apply during the evening/late night ..my resume is going to be buried under a flock of night owls

I am a night owl myself, but I always set my alarm for 8 or 9, press the send button & go back to sleep
So, you find one post that agrees with your opinion, and it is from someone who has actually never even been in the hiring process, and you believe this BS? There are a dozen other posts here stating it does not matter, and it does not.

You are under some strange assumption on how the hiring process works, and you are very incorrect in your assumption.
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:30 PM
 
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was your cover letter long & elaborate? or short and to the point?

I used to write long and elaborate letters but lately I've been favoring short and strait, I feel like it's easier on both the myself and HR;


I am writing in response to the '55555 – GIS Analyst' position offered via Indeed.com on October 2, 2013.

At ***** University, I acquired exemplary knowledge of theories, principals and methods pertaining to the use of Geographic Information Systems and cartographic production. With my immense geospatial skill-set, I can quickly and efficiently adapt to fit the needs of any objective.

My attached resume will provide more details about my qualifications and I would welcome an opportunity to further explain why I am a good fit for this position.

I appreciate your time and consideration.
I start with one paragraph with the basic "Please accept my resume for consideration ....." Give a short synopsis of experience, followed with three specific bullet points of strengths and abilities. The third paragraph is short, but in it, I'm selling myself and giving them the "I am the ideal candidate" notion. The last paragraph is the closing, "if you would like to speak with me..... Thank you very much......." and then ending with "Sincerely," along with my name, address and contact information. I tweak it depending on what kind of job I'm sending it for.
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:30 PM
 
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was your cover letter long & elaborate? or short and to the point?

I used to write long and elaborate letters but lately I've been favoring short and strait, I feel like it's easier on both the myself and HR;


I am writing in response to the '55555 – GIS Analyst' position offered via Indeed.com on October 2, 2013.

At ***** University, I acquired exemplary knowledge of theories, principals and methods pertaining to the use of Geographic Information Systems and cartographic production. With my immense geospatial skill-set, I can quickly and efficiently adapt to fit the needs of any objective.

My attached resume will provide more details about my qualifications and I would welcome an opportunity to further explain why I am a good fit for this position.

I appreciate your time and consideration.
Your cover letter sucks, just saying. I hope you are in a field with high demand.
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:31 PM
 
Location: North Dakota
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If it's electronic send it as soon as you finish it. Time of day doesn't matter as long as it's before the deadline. But if you decide to send it between 7 and 9 go for it. It couldn't hurt.
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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So, you find one post that agrees with your opinion, and it is from someone who has actually never even been in the hiring process, and you believe this BS? There are a dozen other posts here stating it does not matter, and it does not.

You are under some strange assumption on how the hiring process works, and you are very incorrect in your assumption.
did you read his comment?...

"Why? Well, my wife's been in HR for over 20 years, and at one point was a recruiting director for an IT firm. Her explanation is that (and I don't mean to step on any feet here, but this is what she says) most recruiters are both clueless and lazy, and if you're at the top of the list in their e-mail box when they get to work in the morning, you may well be the first person called, especially if you look like a good fit for the position being offered."
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Your cover letter sucks, just saying. I hope you are in a field with high demand.

I am writing in response to the opening for xxxx, which I believe may report to you.

I can offer you seven years of experience managing communications for top-tier xxxx firms, excellent project-management skills, and a great eye for detail, all of which should make me an ideal candidate for this opening.

I have attached my résumé for your review and would welcome the chance to speak with you sometime.



The Best Cover Letter I Ever Received - David Silverman - Harvard Business Review
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:00 PM
 
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did you read his comment?...

"Why? Well, my wife's been in HR for over 20 years, and at one point was a recruiting director for an IT firm. Her explanation is that (and I don't mean to step on any feet here, but this is what she says) most recruiters are both clueless and lazy, and if you're at the top of the list in their e-mail box when they get to work in the morning, you may well be the first person called, especially if you look like a good fit for the position being offered."
Wow, so his wife (not him) was in HR, big deal. Then goes on to make a generalized statement about how most recruiters are clueless and lazy.

I will point out a few things wrong with this:

1. The poster was not in HR, doubtful ever was, and is easily shown not to have a concept of HR and the recruiting process from those who actually are involved in these things.

2. The overly generalization of recruiters as "lazy and clueless" a perfect excuse to make his post even more truthful.

3. The lack of knowledge of the recruitment process is apparent if someone thinks a recruiter just comes in and checks their email lists in the morning, then just takes who ever is at the top. The recruitment process does not work this way at all. Again, maybe Joe's Bar does it like this, but any legitimate employer is not going to have an application process even close to being like this. A person just does not "check the top of their emails", and, who even says a person checks their emails and addresses all of them first thing in the morning? As far as anyone knows, the recruiters may not even get to it until the afternoon because of other duties they have. The "check emails in the morning" statement is coming from someone who obvious has never worked or has knowledge of the subject.

Also, other posters have stated they are in the hiring process, I am in the hiring process as well, and I am telling you that it does not matter at what time of the day you send your application is, jsut as long as it is submitted before the closing date.
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:06 PM
 
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I am writing in response to the opening for xxxx, which I believe may report to you.

I can offer you seven years of experience managing communications for top-tier xxxx firms, excellent project-management skills, and a great eye for detail, all of which should make me an ideal candidate for this opening.

I have attached my résumé for your review and would welcome the chance to speak with you sometime.



The Best Cover Letter I Ever Received - David Silverman - Harvard Business Review
Wow, so you found some blog and it enforces your opinion of what you think it should be, not what it is. I can throw up twenty websites that state twenty different ways a cover letter should be. You are just really looking for justification and agreement on the way you want to do things, not the best way to do them.
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