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Old 03-28-2011, 09:41 AM
 
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Also, some Sephardi do not wear kippot, regardless of their level of observance. I met an Orthodox Sephardic military chaplain who didn't wear a kippah.

As far as reform goes - things seem to have swung back the other way in the last 20 years, and you see at least 50% with kippot - I went to a Reform Yom Kipper service this year. Not my cup of tea, but very welcoming folks. Tallit, on the other hand, are quite rare in Reform temples, while being universal in Conservative and Orthodox shuls.
I am pretty sure a higher percentage of people wear one at my C shul than at a typical O shul
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Old 03-28-2011, 11:47 AM
 
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I am pretty sure a higher percentage of people wear one at my C shul than at a typical O shul ;)
Are you referring to a head covering or to a tallit?
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Old 03-28-2011, 06:46 PM
 
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Also, some Sephardi do not wear kippot, regardless of their level of observance. I met an Orthodox Sephardic military chaplain who didn't wear a kippah.

As far as reform goes - things seem to have swung back the other way in the last 20 years, and you see at least 50% with kippot - I went to a Reform Yom Kipper service this year. Not my cup of tea, but very welcoming folks. Tallit, on the other hand, are quite rare in Reform temples, while being universal in Conservative and Orthodox shuls.

Tallitot are not rare in reform temples. Many people wear them.
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Old 03-29-2011, 01:56 PM
 
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Are you referring to a head covering or to a tallit?

to a tallit.
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Old 04-01-2011, 08:12 PM
 
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Also, some Sephardi do not wear kippot, regardless of their level of observance. I met an Orthodox Sephardic military chaplain who didn't wear a kippah.

As far as reform goes - things seem to have swung back the other way in the last 20 years, and you see at least 50% with kippot - I went to a Reform Yom Kipper service this year. Not my cup of tea, but very welcoming folks. Tallit, on the other hand, are quite rare in Reform temples, while being universal in Conservative and Orthodox shuls.
Tallitot are not always rare in reform shuls. The one I attend many folks wear a tallit. I wear a tallit when I attend shul.

One ought to not make blanket statements about a movement in Judaism because there are many differences in the reform movement and different levels of practice.
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Old 04-02-2011, 02:12 AM
 
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It is quite simply because the Jewish religion is developed from Atenism. The priests of Akhenaten who were exiled from Egypt after his death settled in Canaan - archaeological evidence shows that at that time the people who lived there stopped keeping and eating pigs. See Finkelstein & Silberman, The Bible Unearthed.

Judaism originates in Egypt and the clothing reflects that worn by the Pharaoh and Egyptian priests.

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Old 04-03-2011, 04:48 AM
 
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^If you say so.
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Old 04-04-2011, 10:38 AM
 
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It is quite simply because the Jewish religion is developed from Atenism. The priests of Akhenaten who were exiled from Egypt after his death settled in Canaan - archaeological evidence shows that at that time the people who lived there stopped keeping and eating pigs. See Finkelstein & Silberman, The Bible Unearthed.

Judaism originates in Egypt and the clothing reflects that worn by the Pharaoh and Egyptian priests.

WH Uffington

My understanding is that outside the areas traditionally associated with Israelite settlement (the hill country, mostly), they kept eating pigs.
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Old 04-05-2011, 03:18 AM
 
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My understanding is that outside the areas traditionally associated with Israelite settlement (the hill country, mostly), they kept eating pigs.
That's right, Finkelstein and Silberman confirm this. The evidence indicates that the curious change occurs later than Akhenaten's time.
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Old 04-05-2011, 12:07 PM
 
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That's right, Finkelstein and Silberman confirm this. The evidence indicates that the curious change occurs later than Akhenaten's time.

But if its caused by exiled akenatenists, are you saying the exiled priests went only to the Israelite hill country, and not to the other parts of Canaan? Why?

An alternative would be that the hill country shifted to monotheism on its own (some association of monotheism with the more egalitarian social structure of the hill country, escaped canaanite serfs running to the hills, etc) and that the timing wrt Akenaten was either pure coincidence, or an indirect influence at most.
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