07-17-2014, 10:20 PM
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I'm sure BBQ has been mentioned lots here before, but I wanted to get a nice list going of some "off the grid" BBQ places. This means no OK Joes, Gates, Arthur Bryants, etc.
07-18-2014, 10:37 AM
Location: Washington, DC area
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There are so many bbq threads in the kc forum, so that's probably why you are getting little feedback.
First off, while ok joes is ok, I find it super overrated and it has very little "KC" culture like you would find at gates, bryants etc. It's only been there since the mid 90's I think and they seem to cator to the KS side suburbanites that don't like going to the east side for bbq (which is why they keep opening joints in KS side retail malls). I just don't get why all the tourists are sent there to experience "KC" bbq. And why are all the popular destinations on the KS side named after other states (Oklahoma Joes, Nebraska Furniture mart etc)
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Sorry, had to get that off my chest.
Not a fan of OK Joes. It's not the urban spoon hole in the wall place they make t out to be just because it's in a gas station.
I agree, LC's is great. They are building a new location in Grandview, so maybe that location will have iced tea, but I hope they don't mess things up trying to expand too much.
BB's, Danny Edwards, Rosedale, Big T's, Smokin Guns are some others.
I have not been to slaps or q39 yet, but zagats seems impressed:
Two KC restaurants make Zagats' 'Hottest BBQ Joints' list - Kansas City Business Journal
07-18-2014, 05:12 PM
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i don't get the oklahoma jo's is the best crowd either, kcmo. in fact huge eye roll to them. at least kc masterpiece isn't catching unsuspecting passersby anymore
07-18-2014, 06:20 PM
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I absolutely adore RJ's Bob-B-Que in Mission...so much that I had them cater my very KC wedding reception, to rave reviews. My first date with my husband was there. They also do, to the best of my knowledge, one of the only BBQ breakfasts in the metro (Sundays only, I believe). Burnt ends hash with eggs? House-smoked bacon? BBQ bloody Mary? Yes, please. It's one of the lesser pimped places, which is nice, because it still retains the neighborhood joint feel, isn't swamped with tourists, and never has an unreasonable wait.
07-18-2014, 11:32 PM
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The food at OK Joe's is good, but certainly does not live up to the hype. I've noticed that the clientele seems to be tourists and middle class people. They do have excellent sauce. Gates is good, but the food is inconsistent at times. When I'm in the mood for a sandwich, I prefer Gates or OK Joes as they use an actual bun and not white bread that gets all soggy.
07-19-2014, 06:49 AM
Location: Middle America
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I think OK Joe's is delicious, but there is previous little on earth that I will elect to wait around in line for.
07-19-2014, 08:39 AM
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The food at OK Joe's is good, but certainly does not live up to the hype. I've noticed that the clientele seems to be tourists and middle class people. They do have excellent sauce. Gates is good, but the food is inconsistent at times. When I'm in the mood for a sandwich, I prefer Gates or OK Joes as they use an actual bun and not white bread that gets all soggy.
Big T's is good. You are right, Gates is inconsistent, but I go to specific bbq places for specific things. At gates, I just get the turkey on "bun". They have buns
or burnt ends with fries and baked beans. I love gates sauce and thick cut fries. I don't like gates beef sandwiches, they are too fatty, but that is sort of KC style urban bbq, always has been.
There are some good places out east like Smokehouse and way out east like Bates City bbq.
I tend to push Bryants (only east side location) and LC's on tourists for authentic KC bbq and Jack Stack (only downtown location) for really good bbq in a more upscale environment. I will recommend Gates (midtown/east side locations) because it it a "KC" thing and fun to experience if you have never been to KC, but I tell people to get burnt ends, ribs etc, again, their sliced meat is not always the best.
Depending on where you are from. You can't really go wrong in KC. The worst bbq in the KC area is better than the best around here.
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07-19-2014, 08:56 AM
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I was looking at google and noticed there is a smokin joes in Olathe. I used to love that place when they were in the crossroads downtown. How long has the Olathe location been there? Did they move from downtown or did they have that location before the one downtown closed? May have to check them out next time I'm in town.
07-19-2014, 11:54 AM
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I think it's silly to recommend ONLY the locations in Missouri and not Kansas. As if the company can't have a location in Kansas and prepare the same BBQ they prepare in Missouri?
So Arthur Bryant's at Village West isn't as good as Arthur Bryant's in the ghetto? The Kansas City metro consists of a Kansas and a Missouri side. It's not like stepping over the state line means the BBQ is not as "authentic" or not the same as you will get on the Missouri side. How ridiculous.
My favorite BBQ is Jack Stack. The one in Overland Park. I've gone to different Jack Stack locations, including downtown, and there is no difference. The one in Overland Park is convenient for me, so that's my location of choice. I know Jack Stack isn't an off the grid kind of place the OP is referring to, but that's my favorite in KC.
Oklahoma Joe's is okay. I like Zarda's BBQ in Lenexa. Smokehouse I'm not so crazy about. Not a fan of Gates. I used to love Hayward's BBQ, but last time I tried it, it just wasn't the same as it used to be. I will give it another try. Wyandot BBQ - I used to like it okay, but there are better places and the place is just dirty and dingy. There are better places. LC's I have tried before and it was okay but not something I have to run out to have again. I have had association with the family through a non-food avenue, though, and they are very, very nice people.
Rosedale was really good years ago, but it's been a long time since I've been there. There's Johnny's BBQ in Mission. I've never tried it, but my husband liked it. RJ's - I dunno. Not the best and not the worst.
07-19-2014, 02:02 PM
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Same reason when people visit DC, they go here:
Rather than a suburban location. I know, you don't get it. So you can tell people to drive out to BFE to some strip mall and get the "same thing". I will always tell people to go to the "ghetto" and they always report back that they loved it. If I told somebody to go to the aurther bryants location at the speedway or olathe or the overland park jack stack they would be pissed at me if they missed locations that actually come with some atmosphere just do to their locations alone.
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Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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Not a fan of OK Joes. It's not the urban spoon hole in the wall place they make t out to be just because it's in a gas station.
So Arthur Bryant's at Village West isn't as good as Arthur Bryant's in the ghetto? The Kansas City metro consists of a Kansas and a Missouri side. It's not like stepping over the state line means the BBQ is not as "authentic" or not the same as you will get on the Missouri side. How ridiculous.
