Kansas City, Missouri, The Wanted but Unwanted City

[Truly Missouri]

Originally Posted by Bluefox

So are you saying that Kansas City is a sunbelt city?

I think he meant that southern charm is becoming lost in many places because of northerners moving down into the sunbelt. I'm pretty sure at least. That's how I read it.

[Bluefox]

Originally Posted by Truly Missouri

I think he meant that southern charm is becoming lost in many places because of northerners moving down into the sunbelt. I'm pretty sure at least. That's how I read it.

I don't disagree with that... but what does that have to do with Kansas City? I've never experienced "southern charm" in Kansas City because frankly, I've never considered Kansas City as southern. This is all news to me, but then again I'm a transplant so maybe I'm just ignorant.

It has more southern influences I suppose, especially in dialect and maybe cuisine as well. It's more south-influenced I think than say Indianapolis or certainly Minneapolis... but it's nothing like a place like Charleston which is the first place I think of when I think of "southern charm".

[Bluefox]

Originally Posted by kcskylinelover

Thanks. That's exactly what I meant.




I never said it was "southern" just like I didn't say it was "sunbelt."
Do you see a pattern?
Instead of stumbling on something I didn't say, address what I did say.
I specifically mentioned a few things that gave KC nuances of southern charm.
Feel free to disagree with them all you want, it's a free country still.
Check out the history of Missouri and KC, that will help you out.

Well, actually, this is what you said:

Originally Posted by kcskylinelover

^ yeah I read this, it was all I needed to know...


What's MISSING from that paragraph and the entire theory?

KCMO citizens didn't want to do it.
Everything about "Kansas City" is uniquely Missourian.
From it's segregated past to it's southern charm and food.
Nearby cities like Atchison and Independence were once larger than KC.
Kansas City became what it became because it was in Missouri.

So for a state like KS to vote to annex something is a moot point altogether.
It would be like Mexico's politicians voting to try to annex San Diego.
The people of San Diego would have to agree to it and of course they wouldn't.
KCMO didn't want to be in KS, it is a Missouri city - end of story.
The state of KS' obsession with KCMO is ridiculous.

"From it's [sic] segregated past to it's [sic] southern charm and food."

That fairly clearly implies you think it's a city with southern charm. I'm struggling with that notion and was looking for more clarification for what southern charm actually is if you think Kansas City is a southern charm city. But contrary to your accusations I'm actually quite well-informed about Kansas City history. Missouri is a gray area but at the end of the day, Kansas City is decidedly more Midwestern than Southern, both in terms of its history and present culture.

[ThatJamIAm]

Originally Posted by Bluefox

Well, actually, this is what you said: "From it's [sic] segregated past to it's [sic] southern charm and food."

That fairly clearly implies you think it's a city with southern charm. I'm struggling with that notion and was looking for more clarification for what southern charm actually is if you think Kansas City is a southern charm city. But contrary to your accusations I'm actually quite well-informed about Kansas City history. Missouri is a gray area but at the end of the day, Kansas City is decidedly more Midwestern than Southern, both in terms of its history and present culture.

When the only place you can get grits reliably is the Waffle House in Bonner Springs, KCMO is definitely not a southern city

Grit jokes aside, I don't think of KCMO as southern in the least. It's a cultural crossroad of the Midwest and the South so it carries influences from both region, yet still maintains its own balancing act between the two that makes it unique. I think much of that has to do with the region's past history of free/slave divide and the location at the confluence of both two distinct geographic regions.