[ScoopLV]

I'm not the one saying New York "Italian" is real Italian compared to that fake Italian they serve in California. I'm the one saying real Italian food is found in Italy. Not New York. Not Chicago. Not Timbuktu. Italy. That's where.

Also, we don't have legions of Chinese-Americans calling Crab Rangoon "real Chinese" either. They're not having heated arguments comparing Chicago General Tso's to New York General Tso's. For some reason, the Chinese-Americans haven't abandoned their food roots. The Italian-Americans have.

And, you CAN get real Chinese in America. It's a lot easier to find real Chinese than it is to find real Italian.

[Tek_Freek]

Around here we have what we disparagingly call "Iowa Cajun". We had a place that actually served "real" Cajun, but it went out of business in the Flood of '93. It was in a basement right next to the river and was under water for about 3 months. They moved out of downtown but never really got their footing again.

We had some alligator sausage there that was awesome.

We get "Iowa Mexican", too.

[dynimagelv]

Originally Posted by Tek_Freek

We get "Iowa Mexican", too.

When I mive to Gnu Jesey in 197 with Golden Nugget....there were NO Mexican restaurants ANYwhere....finally, two Itialian guys decided that with all the westerners comin in they needed Mexican....so they opened one in Atlantic City...

NOW....when two east coast psuedoitialians see red, the immediately think TOMATO PASTE

Trust me.....Salaa made with tomato paste and hot sauce is not a pleasant taste.

[jfkIII]

spell check should be you friend.

[unf0rgiven6262]

Originally Posted by Tek_Freek

Around here we have what we disparagingly call "Iowa Cajun". We had a place that actually served "real" Cajun, but it went out of business in the Flood of '93. It was in a basement right next to the river and was under water for about 3 months. They moved out of downtown but never really got their footing again.

We had some alligator sausage there that was awesome.

We get "Iowa Mexican", too.

I had deep fried alligator tail in Florida and it was delicious.

[PinotGuy]

Originally Posted by jfkIII

spell check should be you friend.

That's asking way too much of the residents of a "fake everything" city. They seem to know so much about history of food, it seems, when, in fact, ALL the food they know is a copy of another restaurant in another city.

Interesting how these supposed experts on pizza have no idea about Italy and its supposed hold on pizza. I lived in Rome, back in early '70s, for over 3 months. Every time I passed by one of these so called "pizza" joints, they weren't even called "pizza", what they had on offer was more than unappetizing, imagine cheese bread from Domino and you get a decent approximation of what "pizza" was back in the day. And I am willing to bet on Domino's version actually being head and shoulders above "Italian pizza" back then. Never once was I even inclined to try this so called "pizza", basically baked dough with minimum amount of cheese on top. No spices, no tomatoes and certainly no mozzarella (looked like a bad version of Velveeta).

And yet a "fake town" denizen is trying to lecture me on "Italian pizza", which for all sense and purposes didn't really exist until some recent times when some Italian marketing guy said, Hey, the guys in USA did all the marketing for us, we just need to come up with some "tear jerker story of Queen Margherita" and somehow figure out how colors on the pie match the flag to make it look legit". And even this knee high BS came out of Napoli, not the rest of the regions listed by the "in the know king". Even worse for this Italian "marketing brilliance", Provence (France) has been doing "pizza" for way longer than Italy has.

Interesting how Europe has been rewriting facts about their "history" in recent times and no one even questions them on this. Wine "history" of France is nothing but a dreamed up and heavily promoted myth, just like Italian pizza, French wine was nothing but **** until the Dutch and then an American showed them how to do it right (Haut Brion), but who cares about facts in this day of Wikipedia?
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To ScoopLV:

Have no idea what scoop refers to in your nickname, but I'll let you in on a little scoop, just keep it hush-hush: There are these places, called "library", and they contain things made of many bound sheets of paper with printed words on them. Many words on many subjects. Maybe you should find one of these "library" places and start learning a thing or two, especially on subjects you claim to know. Only because someone says "blah" does not mean that "blah" is actually true. And don't look for latest and spiffiest book on the shelf, but try finding books as old as is possible, not the heavily edited, massaged and marketing driven BS coming out of Europe these days, come to think of it most USA school books as well lately. Old(er) books actually have some very interesting and honest data in them. Again, only if you care to look.

As for Italian food, I guess you and every self appointed Italian food expert will be able to tell gnocci made in NY from those made in Italy, in a BLIND TASTE TEST. Or some other dish you'd care to name. My hat is off to you, then. But something tells me you are all simply full of it and just don't know how much. Italian food is Italian food, on both sides of the ocean. You just need to know where to have it, there is good and bad Italian food ON BOTH SIDES of the ocean. Stop repeating some really stupid things and start asking questions.

Have fun discussing subject you seem to know nothing about..
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Anyway, I am done with this thread. Appreciate the info on that pizza joint near Nellis, run by who else, ex-NYers (enough said) and will visit it first chance I get.

At least now I see whose opinion counts for something on this board and I appreciate that, so its been a good learning experience no matter the distractions.

[Tek_Freek]

Pinot_Gringo says, "Bye bye". Er, "arrivederci".

[ScoopLV]

Yeah, gotta love it when someone makes a "parting shot," followed by "I'm finished with this thread."

Translation: "I realize I gots nothing, but I wanna have the last word."

[jfkIII]

Originally Posted by ScoopLV

Yeah, gotta love it when someone makes a "parting shot," followed by "I'm finished with this thread."

Translation: "I realize I gots nothing, but I wanna have the last word."

I just don't understand why more people don't use the ignore feature???

Pinot could just ignore Tek....and/or Tek just ignore Pinot...and the problem is solved!

[Tek_Freek]

If that were to be the overwhelming case no one would ever respond to JFKIII

And you know I couldn't pass that up, don't you?

I don't have any problem with PinotGuy except that long, drawn-out, rambling, meaningless parting shot. Everyone is welcome to their opinion, even me on occasion, but that post basically said, "I'm right. You're wrong. Period. And by implication it said the same to anyone who disagrees with Pinot. In addition it was rather insulting to a degree that was not necessary. I usually like Pinot's posts, but that was over the top.

Dealing with someone who thinks they are always right reminds me of my favorite saying: "People who think they know everything are particularly annoying to those of us who do."

And I fully expect to be called out when I get too.... too. I'm not perfect and can be an ass with the best of them. When I am let me know and I'll try to cool it. Try being the key word.