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Old 06-09-2009, 08:46 PM
 
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I believe heroin at various times was a legitimate prescription drug...used to wean addicts off opium if I remeber correctly.

Again that is more a public policy decision.
And once upon a time Coca-Cola contained cocaine.

 
Old 06-09-2009, 09:10 PM
 
Location: El Camino Real
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Right, and it doesn't matter if he committed suicide or if it was an accident. What difference does it make? You're dead either way.
Right. The motive of a dead man without a suicide note is the sound of the wind.
 
Old 06-09-2009, 09:18 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Uh, no. There's nothing even remotely hinting at drug potency in the two sentences you quoted.Seriously? I was lead to believe they were exactly the same. I read it on the intarweb.
So you agree that the schedules level has nothing to do with potency.

Then why bring it up?
 
Old 06-09-2009, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Has anyone else heard this? It is being broadcast on the radio station I'm listening to..

Apparently he passed away in his sleep around 3am this morning. No other details are being given...

Very sad day
Coroner: Danny Gans died accidentally
By KEN RITTER – 3 hours ago

LAS VEGAS (AP) — Las Vegas entertainer Danny Gans' death was accidental, caused by a prescription painkiller, a coroner said Tuesday.
Clark County Coroner Mike Murphy said an autopsy, toxicology and microscopic samples showed the 52-year-old Gans died from toxic levels of hydromorphone. The opiate drug, commonly marketed under the brand name Dilaudid, is used to treat chronic pain, which Gans suffered from, Murphy said.

Murphy said Gans had heart disease caused by high blood pressure — which makes the heart work overtime and left him more susceptible to heart irregularities. Gans also had a condition (polycythemia) that results in too many red blood cells, Murphy said. (The condition is the opposite of anemia.)

"Mr. Gans' health conditions placed him at greater risk for heart irregularities, and the hydromorphone was a factor in exacerbating those risks," Murphy said. "We clearly listed this as accidental."

Gans was found dead in bed at home in Henderson early May 1 after his wife, Julie, reported she couldn't rouse him.

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Old 06-09-2009, 09:22 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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And once upon a time Coca-Cola contained cocaine.
And one could get alcohol poisining from hadachol.

So?

There are all sorts of interesting questions. They don't involve suicide but they do again ask the question of whether certain people are able to obtain drugs that would not be medically indicated because they want them.

And then the question of medical malpractice arises.

Or was one of the people perceived as very straight not so?

Interesting stuff.
 
Old 06-09-2009, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Upstate NY!
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Coroner: Danny Gans died accidentally
By KEN RITTER – 3 hours ago

LAS VEGAS (AP) — Las Vegas entertainer Danny Gans' death was accidental, caused by a prescription painkiller, a coroner said Tuesday.
Clark County Coroner Mike Murphy said an autopsy, toxicology and microscopic samples showed the 52-year-old Gans died from toxic levels of hydromorphone. The opiate drug, commonly marketed under the brand name Dilaudid, is used to treat chronic pain, which Gans suffered from, Murphy said.

Murphy said Gans had heart disease caused by high blood pressure — which makes the heart work overtime and left him more susceptible to heart irregularities. Gans also had a condition (polycythemia) that results in too many red blood cells, Murphy said. (The condition is the opposite of anemia.)

"Mr. Gans' health conditions placed him at greater risk for heart irregularities, and the hydromorphone was a factor in exacerbating those risks," Murphy said. "We clearly listed this as accidental."

Gans was found dead in bed at home in Henderson early May 1 after his wife, Julie, reported she couldn't rouse him.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved
Thanks for the "day late and dollar short" update.
 
Old 06-09-2009, 09:42 PM
 
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So you agree that the schedules level has nothing to do with potency.

Then why bring it up?
That should be quite obvious by my previous post.
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Do you not see how the story takes a different turn when it's suggested that he died from complications with a drug that has no legitimate medical use versus one that is purposefully prescribed for chronic pain?
 
Old 06-09-2009, 09:45 PM
 
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And one could get alcohol poisining from hadachol.

So?
And laundanum could be bought over the counter. Do you have a point here or are you simply reminiscing?
 
Old 06-09-2009, 09:47 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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That should be quite obvious by my previous post.
And if he got it from a pharmacy with a prescription I agree with you.

If he did not it is simply another street drug. Interchangable with Heroin.

And that would be interesting to know.
 
Old 06-09-2009, 09:48 PM
 
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Right. The motive of a dead man without a suicide note is the sound of the wind.
Fortune cookie or is that your own?
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