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First off, hiring a college grad process need to change. For example, Intel has a rotation program that one needs a 3.0-3.5 GPA to get into. The get visas for college grads that have these GPAs instead of hiring someone with a 2.8-3.4 GPA from the same University. That doesn't sound like a short supply of workers. That sounds like an unnecessary weeding out process.
When you are competing with Samsung, Qualcomm, the Chinese folk (ZTE, Huaweii) you want the best workers you can get, not some guy who will do a so-so job (like the one he did in college).
If Intel could not get them here, they would get them somewhere else. You can only coerce a company so much.
You chose a bad example, because Intel is one of the companies that are actually hiring very bright engineers, American or not.
You should be directing your rage at Tata Consulting, TCS, Wipro, Cognizant, among others, who are filling their ranks with not very bright "consultants" who are placed in banks, insurers and other companies to do job that a more regular folks with a 2.8 GPA from a subpar university could.
I think whatever comes out in immigration reform, it must include a way to keep these companies in check.
It's never time to stop immigration. Immigration is a basic human right - to live (and work) where ever you want.
If people (aka Americans) can't find jobs, THEY should be the ones who emigrate. Move somewhere else. They shouldn't get a hand out just because they (well, their distant families) happened to move here earlier than someone else.
This is part of why the economy is failing and the unemployment rate is too high - people who can't find jobs in their ****ty little "small town USAs" don't pack up and leave, they just stay there and collect welfare and complain that "I can't find work because of immigration" even though if they were to participate in immigration (aka they emigrate themselves to somewhere else), they would be able to find work and a better life too.
There is only one way to do that.
I mean, a passport control everywhere - on the streets, in the schools, shops etc.
Are you ready for this?
There are several ways to accomplish what I set out, not just with "a passport control everywhere".
Secure the border, and enforce the rules. People that are here illegally should not be entitled to benefits. And employers that employ illegals should be fined.
It's amazing that ANY taxpayer would be in favor of anything less than enforcement of the rules. It just costs you money in the long run.
When you are competing with Samsung, Qualcomm, the Chinese folk (ZTE, Huaweii) you want the best workers you can get, not some guy who will do a so-so job (like the one he did in college).
If Intel could not get them here, they would get them somewhere else. You can only coerce a company so much.
You chose a bad example, because Intel is one of the companies that are actually hiring very bright engineers, American or not.
You should be directing your rage at Tata Consulting, TCS, Wipro, Cognizant, among others, who are filling their ranks with not very bright "consultants" who are placed in banks, insurers and other companies to do job that a more regular folks with a 2.8 GPA from a subpar university could.
I think whatever comes out in immigration reform, it must include a way to keep these companies in check.
American students have faced a really difficult 5 (or more years). I think that there are many very bright, hard working American students that this GPA cut off hurt. Like the ones who work to (try to) pay for college, or the ones whose parents lost their homes. Companies like Google have already demonstrated that there is no correlation between GPA and employee quality. Seconds, Intel has many engineers in the sales force (I don't think you have to be the “brightest“ to be a sales man).
There are a lot of issues with visa workers, and I agree the gov should keep them in check. BUT, they don't.
I will have to research it more, but someone told me some companies are starting to not hire visa engineers because their work is subpar, and creates flawed products. A company I used to work for stopped hiring visas for this very reason. Has anyone else heard anything about this?
There is a problem with companies making difficult job descriptions just to prove they can't find workers tho.
It's never time to stop immigration. Immigration is a basic human right - to live (and work) where ever you want.
If people (aka Americans) can't find jobs, THEY should be the ones who emigrate. Move somewhere else. They shouldn't get a hand out just because they (well, their distant families) happened to move here earlier than someone else.
This is part of why the economy is failing and the unemployment rate is too high - people who can't find jobs in their ****ty little "small town USAs" don't pack up and leave, they just stay there and collect welfare and complain that "I can't find work because of immigration" even though if they were to participate in immigration (aka they emigrate themselves to somewhere else), they would be able to find work and a better life too.
This is easier said than done, isn't it? I'm not sure but I've heard it is difficult to get sponsorship in other countries. Do you know of any countries it's easy to move to?
What would be the impact of Mexico becoming a state? Would that be a better/worse solution? Since Mexicans want to be here so bad, why don't they try to become a state?
What would be the impact of Mexico becoming a state? Would that be a better/worse solution? Since Mexicans want to be here so bad, why don't they try to become a state?
And you were the one talking about "stereo types"...
What would be the impact of Mexico becoming a state? Would that be a better/worse solution? Since Mexicans want to be here so bad, why don't they try to become a state?
False assumption.
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