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Old 07-09-2014, 02:09 PM
 
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Yes. Like 1/3rd of Denver is of Mexican descent. Over the past 8 years, there's been a huge influx of Mexicans here in South Louisiana. (not that there's anything wrong with that) Definitely under-reported in census data. Its truly amazing the sheer number of Mexicans that are in the states.
This is from NBC News...
"There are about 54 million Hispanics in the United States, making up about 17 percent of the nation’s population as the largest minority group. By 2060, Hispanics are expected to make up 60 percent of the overall U.S. population."

In 17 States, 1 in 5 Kindergartners Is Latino - NBC News

I keep reading about how the politicians are concerned about getting the Latino vote. Pretty soon, they won't have to worry, the Latino vote will be going to the Latino Politicians.
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Old 07-09-2014, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Mexico is right next door, there's no ocean or other country in the way, just a river.
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Old 07-09-2014, 04:30 PM
 
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I find it interesting that most common legal immigrants are of Mexican origin even in places like Idaho, Wisconsin, and the Carolinas, which are far away from Mexico. Even in some places closer to Canada than to Mexico, Mexicans are the largest group.

It seems like only in the northeast do the largest source of immigrants trace their roots to other countries.

Immigration map: What are the biggest immigrant groups in your state?
Unfortunately, we have gotten away from diversity in our legal immigration numbers. Diversity aids in assimilation rather than colonization. With so many from mostly one national/ethnic group both legally and illegally it is anti-diversity.
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Old 07-09-2014, 04:33 PM
 
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Two words: agricultural labor.
Nope! Most Mexicans whether they be here legally or illegally aren't working agricultural jobs. They are doing jobs that Americans need and want. Greedy employers just want the cheap labor to increase their profits and to hell with the American worker.
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Old 07-10-2014, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Great Falls, VA
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The fact is there are few places in the world where a man-made boundary (the land border) separates such contrasting levels of quality of life and access to opportunities.

We can spend decades discussing what lead to such disparity, but until that is addressed (whether that means improving quality of life in Mexico or depressing quality of life in the United States), Hispanics will continue immigrating to the United States. Just like English immigrants first came to America looking for better opportunities, followed by Italians, Germans, Irish, etc. Just like it's happening in Europe with African immigrants. And if one day the gap disappears, guess what's going to happen? Another different group of immigrants will follow. Because the world will always have haves and have-nots.

So as long as the United States remains a place where it's desirable to live, people will come. Where they come from will depend on who has easier access. And one thing that isn't changing anytime soon, is the fact that Latin America borders the United States. That's the reality and any reasonable US immigration and economic growth policies cannot overlook that simple and unavoidable fact.
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Old 07-10-2014, 03:49 PM
 
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The fact is there are few places in the world where a man-made boundary (the land border) separates such contrasting levels of quality of life and access to opportunities.

We can spend decades discussing what lead to such disparity, but until that is addressed (whether that means improving quality of life in Mexico or depressing quality of life in the United States), Hispanics will continue immigrating to the United States. Just like English immigrants first came to America looking for better opportunities, followed by Italians, Germans, Irish, etc. Just like it's happening in Europe with African immigrants. And if one day the gap disappears, guess what's going to happen? Another different group of immigrants will follow. Because the world will always have haves and have-nots.

So as long as the United States remains a place where it's desirable to live, people will come. Where they come from will depend on who has easier access. And one thing that isn't changing anytime soon, is the fact that Latin America borders the United States. That's the reality and any reasonable US immigration and economic growth policies cannot overlook that simple and unavoidable fact.
So you are saying the legal immigration and illegal immigration are the same thing?
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Old 07-10-2014, 05:23 PM
 
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Because once one is in the United States, it is fairly easy to move around. As such, it simply stands to reason that once a person finds themselves having crossed the border (into CA, AZ, NM, TX) it will not be uncommon to continue on in search of livelihood. There's no reason to expect immigrants from Mexico to go no further than Brownsville or Nogales. Immigrants to the United States have typically fanned out across the nation from their port of entry.

As for why Mexico makes up the largest source of immigrants in general, the reason is a combination of proximity (it is one of only two countries that border the United States), population (Mexico is the third most populous country in the western hemisphere after the United States and Brazil), and socio-economic need (if Mexico had, for example, the economic opportunities and social system and crime rate of, say, Canada, there would be far less desire for immigration to the United States).
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Old 07-10-2014, 06:14 PM
 
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Most people couldn't tell the difference or care between Mexican, Guatemalan, El Salvadorian etc. brown = Mexican

Outside of that population size and location of said country plays a huge part in the demos
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Old 07-11-2014, 06:14 AM
 
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Because once one is in the United States, it is fairly easy to move around. As such, it simply stands to reason that once a person finds themselves having crossed the border (into CA, AZ, NM, TX) it will not be uncommon to continue on in search of livelihood. There's no reason to expect immigrants from Mexico to go no further than Brownsville or Nogales. Immigrants to the United States have typically fanned out across the nation from their port of entry.

As for why Mexico makes up the largest source of immigrants in general, the reason is a combination of proximity (it is one of only two countries that border the United States), population (Mexico is the third most populous country in the western hemisphere after the United States and Brazil), and socio-economic need (if Mexico had, for example, the economic opportunities and social system and crime rate of, say, Canada, there would be far less desire for immigration to the United States).
So potential "legal" immigrants from other countries can't fly here or take a ship here? It is our government that is favoring Mexicans and other Latinos in our immigration quotas. This is so wrong when there are far needier citizens of other countries. I advocate for equality in our immigration numbers to aid in assimilation. What is happening today instead is colonization. Ted Kennedy said when he opened up the flood gates in 1965 that immigrants would not alter our culture, language, etc. Yeah, right!
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Old 07-11-2014, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Great Falls, VA
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So you are saying the legal immigration and illegal immigration are the same thing?
Your conclusion from my post makes no sense, where did I say that?

This impacts both legal and illegal immigration. Mexico benefits from NAFTA's TN visas, which makes it much easier for Mexicans (and Canadians) to come to the US legally than it is for immigrants from other countries (who are subject to the H1B lottery and 6 year visa duration). And given the amount of opportunities available in the United States and the closeness to Mexico compared to other desirable immigration destinations such as Europe and Australia, it's not surprising that most Mexicans that leave Mexico through legal immigration end up going to the United States.
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