Traffic might make me leave Long Island. Was the Island designed the wrong way? (New York: 2014, tenants)

[agw123]

Originally Posted by dman72

Traffic circles are dangerous to me, they love them in New England.

Once you get it, it isn't hard. It's when you've never seen one before.

You yield to anyone already in the circle. It's pretty simple.

Having driven around New England a lot years ago, I know how to drive in a traffic circle. Its all the people who dont who cause problems.
Ironically, I have seen people drive around the circle in circles because they couldnt figure out how to get out. (this was a multi-lane circle)

[minesbroken]

while we're at it...who was the genius that thought up all the new cut off lanes where you can be in the right lane and either make a right hand turn or floor it and go strait and cut everyone off just before the lane ends on the other side. Why not just have right turning lanes? what is the point of making it legal to be an idiot?o on

there's one on old country road
one on park avenue and pulaski
one on william floyd parkway....
so on and so on and so on

[geethal]

Originally Posted by I_Love_LI_but

Where do you park? Garage? On the street? How long does it take to get to Manhattan from there and what section do you work in (downtown, midtown, etc.)?

I park in the streets two blocks down near the 'A' train lefferts blvd stop and and go to downtown in like 40 min in the subway. So, 30 min drive plus 40 subway ride makes my commute. so, i don't think LI traffic is that as bad as lot of people mention here.

[agw123]

Originally Posted by geethal

I park in the streets two blocks down near the 'A' train lefferts blvd stop and and go to downtown in like 40 min in the subway. So, 30 min drive plus 40 subway ride makes my commute. so, i don't think LI traffic is that as bad as lot of people mention here.

Your car is still there at night?

Your commute might cost more, but your trip might be a tad more comfortable on the LIRR.

[Nascar99]

Steve Leavy Smart Growth lol we don"t need Growth were To tall Anyway

[qjbusmaster]

Originally Posted by geethal

I park in the streets two blocks down near the 'A' train lefferts blvd stop and and go to downtown in like 40 min in the subway. So, 30 min drive plus 40 subway ride makes my commute. so, i don't think LI traffic is that as bad as lot of people mention here.

ya probably live near a bus that takes ya to the LIRR

[checkmatechamp13]

Originally Posted by Anthony314

People here don't want any transient oriented development here. They think it's going to turn the Island into "Queens" well, I lived in Queens for 12 years before I moved back to the Island and I have to say, my quality of life was actually better in that county. I lived off Queens Blvd and I actually hit LESS traffic than what I do on the Meadowbrook and around Nassau.

It is possible to have transit-oriented development and still maintain the character of the neighborhood. The downtown area could have shops with a couple of stories of residential units above them, and the people who feel that it is too noisy can live, say a mile out, and buses could run between the downtown areas of different towns, providing decent service to the people who don't actually want to live downtown.

It works out here in Staten Island.

Originally Posted by Gpsma

Anytime you people who drive to work want to trade with a LIRR commuter, you will have many takers. I don't like driving in traffic but lets face it...you are comfortable in your car, no blond brainless soccer mom yacking on a cell phone in the seat next to you, your satellite radio playing your favorite music, your coffee in the car mug all nice and warm, and your two hour commute (on a bad day) barely longer than a commuters time on a good day.

Stop complaining.

But you don't have the option of taking a nap after a long day at work because you have to drive the car.

Not to mention the fact that, when done right, transit can be faster than a car. Just look at the subway in Manhattan: You're flying down under the streets of NYC while the traffic crawls above you.

Originally Posted by majortom1981

There is not much that can be done about traffic. We are on an ISLAND. The only way you can stop it is kick some people off the island.

during rush hour the LIRR pretty much runs at capacity so that wont help .

The only thing I think would help would be another commuter type line say inplace of the HOV lane.

Other than that its a space thing because of the fact we are on an island.

I have run int ojust as much traffic in other states. Moving to another state like north carolina is only temporary because everybody is moving there.

Maybe the solution could be to allow buses to run on the parkways, and have express buses running to NYC, the way New Jersey has it.

Originally Posted by haywood16

Illegal aliens and illegal apartments = more traffic

Not if the transit system is adequate so that they can just take buses and trains.

Originally Posted by Anthony314

What's the difference between a monorail and light rail?

A monorail generally runs above the street, and it has one rail that supports the whole car. A light rail generally has some segments where it runs in the streets, and has 2 rails, like the LIRR.

Originally Posted by qjbusmaster

The N51 and N40 buses are faster!!!!! I've used them I can help ya avoid the sprawl click here http://mta.info/libus/mapnassaubus.pdf there are better ways the funny part is these buses are quite fast too!!!!! also N43 goes from freeport directly to nassau hub area for travel advise consult me or PM me I know short cuts!!!!!

The problem is that, once you have a car, the marginal cost of driving it, especially in LI is going to be less than paying for the bus.

Not to mention the fact that the buses don't run that frequently. The N40 comes fairly frequently, but the N51 doesn't.

Originally Posted by qjbusmaster

It's cheaper if you don't go to the city look up intermediate fares.

The problem is that, even though it is cheaper, it is slower. Riders on the Main Line can go to Hicksville and take the N22, riders on the Oyster Bay Branch can go to Mineola and take the N22/N22A/N26 to Jamaica, and riders on the Babylon Branch can go to Freeport and take the N4, but the additional time spent is a lot.

Originally Posted by qjbusmaster

ya probably live near a bus that takes ya to the LIRR

It is probably cheaper for him to drive and just pay $2.25 for the subway fare than to have to take a bus and the LIRR. LIRR tickets are expensive: From his area, they're probably over $200 per month, and a UniTicket would cost an extra $33 per month.

[cml]

Traffic is definitely one of the reasons why I would leave Long Island, We have some of the worst traffic ever. I like going places on I just don't like driving and sitting in bumper to bumper traffic it's annoying. It's such a pain in neck to get places.

[mowmylawn]

Originally Posted by cml

Traffic is definitely one of the reasons why I would leave Long Island, We have some of the worst traffic ever. I like going places on I just don't like driving and sitting in bumper to bumper traffic it's annoying. It's such a pain in neck to get places.

Traffic is bad and getting worse on LI, but this is just the tip of the iceberg. With very large housing projects (the Avalon developments, the Hamlets and now Heartland with 9000 housing units, just to name a few), the developers and politicians laugh right to the bank, but fail to upgrade infrastructure. Whether you drive or train it, the infrastructure here on LI is ill designed for today's usage and neglected as an afterthought. The real grim reality is there's no relief in sight, despite though huge capex projects like the LIRR east-side access, which will no doubt run late and way over budget. What a grim reality and an even more dismal future for LI.

[zulu400]

One or 2 casinos should help alleviate the traffic.