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Old 10-06-2011, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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There is no amendment in the constitution that mentions the right of people to speed on public roads. I already can't go on public roads without a government sanctioned license and registration. I am also "subject" to intrusive radar gun trackings and I can be pulled stopped to have my license and reg checked at any point (check points) by a police officer.

I'm not for excessive government control of behaviors in general, but cutting down on speeding on public highways is not excessive, and the fact that I'd never have to hear jack-arses bragging about getting away with speeding because they have a PBA card is worth it alone.
They only had horsies when the Constitution was written, otherwise I'm sure it would be in there.
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:19 AM
 
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Not sure its the right way but speeding is out of control not just on the LIE.If they can prove it will pay for itself then why not save lives.
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:22 AM
 
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Need a camera for drivers doing the speed limit in the left (PASSING) lane. Should be NO speed limit (or 75) in the left lane, 55 in the center and right lanes. People need to learn how to drive, not pay fees to the granny state to enforce an idiotic law that is not based on actual rules of the road. Passing lane, travel lane, exit lane...know it, learn it, live it.

The acccidents are less from speed than from PASSING on the right to get around the dimwit in the left lane doing 56.
You're right, people need to learn how to drive.

If they knew how to drive, they wouldn't be trying to pass on the right.
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:30 AM
 
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...and you thought red light cams were bad!
A wee bit off topic, but kinda related...
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LA Times - July/2011
Who knew L.A.'s red-light camera fines were 'voluntary'?
Drivers who paid the tickets, some of which are $476, fume at the disclosure that authorities cannot force violators to pay up. But don't expect to get a refund.

City officials this week spotlighted a surprising revelation involving red-light camera tickets: Authorities cannot force violators who simply don't respond to pay them. For a variety of reasons, including the way the law was written, Los Angeles officials say the fines for ticketed motorists are essentially "voluntary" and there are virtually no tangible consequences for those who refuse to pay.

The disclosure comes as the city is considering whether to drop the controversial photo enforcement program, with the City Council scheduled to vote on the matter Wednesday. Even if the program is shut down, it will be little consolation to the tens of thousands like Brickman who already paid fines.

Full Article: La Red Light Cameras | Red-light cameras: Who knew L.A.'s red-light camera fines were 'voluntary'? - Los Angeles Times
It's my understanding that at this time Los Angeles has all but scrapped their red-light camera program due, at least in part, to this loophole. Some surrounding areas have yet to decide whether or not to continue with it or drop it, too. LA figured they just weren't cost efficient, and didn't reduce traffic issues as thought at the start of their test run with the program.

I wonder how the real numbers add up in NYC/LI? Is it profitable? Does it reduce traffic issues as originally touted?
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Massapequa Park
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Red Light cams are one thing...speed cams are another. Red Light cams may actually not be all that bad. Definitely $$-motivated for the most part and they are profitable.
Speed cams are pushing it unless they raise the speed limit to reality (65-75).

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You're right, people need to learn how to drive.

If they knew how to drive, they wouldn't be trying to pass on the right.
Yeah but they wouldn't have to pass on the right if Blanche & Herb knew not to drive 50 in the passing lane.
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:47 AM
 
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So Pequa...guess you feel Blanche and Herb shouldn't be doing 30mph in Mass Park along Park Blvd? Should they be doing 35, 40, 50...and is that without school busses picking up kids or not?

Speeding on the LIE is probably a minor danger compared to speeding off the highways. However, those that think 75 is the minimum they should do on the LIE are the same ilk that think nothing of doing 45 down a sidestreet and tailgating granny in front of them to make her go faster.

Those who speed need to be prosecuted like DWI offenders.
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Massapequa Park
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So Pequa...guess you feel Blanche and Herb shouldn't be doing 30mph in Mass Park along Park Blvd? Should they be doing 35, 40, 50...and is that without school busses picking up kids or not?

Speeding on the LIE is probably a minor danger compared to speeding off the highways. However, those that think 75 is the minimum they should do on the LIE are the same ilk that think nothing of doing 45 down a sidestreet and tailgating granny in front of them to make her go faster.

Those who speed need to be prosecuted like DWI offenders.
Not at all. The 30 mph village speed limit is fine especially down one lane residential areas or side streets. I think most would agree on that. It should be even lower through the actual downtown part of Park and close to the schools. Parkways are completely different.
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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I'm all for speed cameras, but 55MPH on most stretches of the LIE is ridiculous. East of 63 it should be 70, most of the rest should be 65 (these are the speed limits on the Garden State and the Turnpike in NJ), and then I'm fine with the cameras. Aw, what's wrong, your PBA card won't get you out of tickets anymore when you get pulled over doing 80? My heart weeps.
If this goes through, that's one less eBay expenditure for some people ...
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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I never said I am for big brother I said I am for people not breaking the law. If morons didn't do it in the first place, there would be no money for the government to make by putting up these cameras. Too much for you to understand??

Funny, I don't think I've been pulled over in YEARS. My secret? Not driving like an ass.
Now you've jinxed yourself!
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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The state of Maryland uses speed cameras in work zones. More than 12 mph over the posted speed results in a $40 summons.
That's it? Boy they are a cheap date. If we get speeding cameras, I am sure the "surcharges" alone will be more than that.
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