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Old 12-14-2012, 02:02 PM
 
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Im sure everyone has heard about the tragedy in connecticut.

When is some kid going to do this here.

Time to deal with mental health issues. Your kid is wacky...get him some help. Lets stop ignoring that we have tons of people around us with mental health problems. Its not a gun issue...its a mind problem. Thanks to the geanola bars we can no longer keep the mentally ill in hospitals, we can no longer commit a young person so they can get help...when are we going to deal with the nuts around us?

 
Old 12-14-2012, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Selden New York
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Kids have no interest in guns here just weed.
 
Old 12-14-2012, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Massapequa Park
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Elementary schools and nursery schools are so vulnerable to this kind of shooting.

We need to arm some teachers, principals, and other school personnel. That is the best solution.
 
Old 12-14-2012, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Bellmore
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Elementary schools and nursery schools are so vulnerable to this kind of shooting.

We need to arm some teachers, principals, and other school personnel. That is the best solution.
Playing devil's advocate, but how is arming a teacher or a principal going to prevent something like this from happening again? These people give no warning to what they are about to do. Just usually just walk in and start shooting. If a teacher had a gun, they wouldn't have time to pull it out and kill the shooter.
 
Old 12-14-2012, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Massapequa Park
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Playing devil's advocate, but how is arming a teacher or a principal going to prevent something like this from happening again? These people give no warning to what they are about to do. Just usually just walk in and start shooting. If a teacher had a gun, they wouldn't have time to pull it out and kill the shooter.
It would certainly minimize the damage, and it could make a shooter think twice about entering. The way it's set up now is all schools, especially Nursery & Elementary, are sitting ducks for this kind of attack. If you have multiple personnel armed at the school, a shooter will not get very far.
 
Old 12-14-2012, 02:45 PM
 
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Elementary schools and nursery schools are so vulnerable to this kind of shooting.

We need to arm some teachers, principals, and other school personnel. That is the best solution.
I would never send my child to a school that had armed teachers. No way!

The frequency at which these things happens isn't worth having children surrounded by guns.
 
Old 12-14-2012, 02:51 PM
 
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It would certainly minimize the damage, and it could make a shooter think twice about entering. The way it's set up now is all schools, especially Nursery & Elementary, are sitting ducks for this kind of attack. If you have multiple personnel armed at the school, a shooter will not get very far.
I have been the head custodian at the same elementary school for almost 30 years and I assure you and everyone else-there is no sure way to keep people out. Parents nowadays have the right to enter school at any time. There are numerous food deliverymen,insurance underwriters,state ed dept,contracted therapists,staff members from other schools,etc accessing building everyday. People are buzzed in by a receptionist but she cannot decide who to let in-she has to permit all to enter.
 
Old 12-14-2012, 04:04 PM
 
Location: under the beautiful Carolina blue
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As BigBlue said - there is no way to keep these people out. Our elementary schools were locked in GC, but all you had to do was buzz the door and they'd let you in. Then what??? Really the only way is to have metal detectors at the doors, but who is going to man them? We laugh down here because you have to sign in at the front office and wear a sticker with your picture on it. Oooooh, that's great security.

As for arming teachers - please. There was a child who choked on carrots that she got from her teachers purse at a daycare in Hicksville a few years ago, and you think guns in the classroom are a good idea? I guess they are supposed to keep them in a shoulder holster as they teach. Are teachers going to have qualify on the range a couple times a year as if they're FBI agents?

People who commit these crimes invariably kill themselves at some point - do you really think it matters to them if they kill 2 people or 20? You're suggesting that a kindergarten teacher can switch gears from "today's weather" to "let me line up my shot" in a matter of seconds. In your imagination, you think that an armed populace is always ready for action. They're not. They're going about their business and shooting it out with a mentally ill person is probably the last thing on their mind - even with the gun on their hip. Oh, and the mentally ill person doesn't really care how many armed people are in the building. That's part of the crazy.

Let's be realistic - anywhere you go these days you're just hoping for the best. The movies, the mall, the elementary school. It's crazy out there.
 
Old 12-14-2012, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Children have had access to violent video games, violent movies, violent images in the news media. They grow up desensitized. Has anyone thought about banning violent video games? Perhaps banning violent blood bath movies?
 
Old 12-14-2012, 04:13 PM
 
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Really the only way is to have metal detectors at the doors, but who is going to man them?
They do this in the city, where not surprisingly there are no mass schootings of students in schools. Yes, security (sometimes armed) will have to man them.
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