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Old 10-17-2013, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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- What I don't understand is this. A better school district like Manhasset is literally HALF the school tax rate that we are (480 vs 970). We are both Nassau County which these combined taxes are for. They may have more commercial there but why does that affect the SCHOOL tax rate? Even Hicksville is at 650.

- Teachers are putting blame elsewhere but their ridiculous salaries are contributing to the budget which is what all this shuffling is ultimately paying for.

- In the papers it appears Suozzi has a plan to alter how grievances are paid back to homeowners. I haven't seen a plan from Mangano. Yet it shows Mangano is at 50%+ in the polls vs. Suozzi at 35%. What gives?

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Every time one of your neighbors grieves and wins, everyone else in the area pays more.
I used to think this but it's not as simple as that. We are paying more via increased tax rates, but those higher tax rates still apply to everyone who has grieved too.

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Old 10-17-2013, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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A separate question - if you just received a letter stating you've grieved successfully (not my house), does that apply to the new bill we're just getting now (applies to '14) or the following year ('15)? Because the letter states '14-'15 application.
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Nassau County
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Ive owned my house 4 years. Taxes went up 1% the first year, then down 2% (not from grieving either) , then up 10%, and up again 6% this year. Awesome.
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:53 AM
 
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Would a low asking price impact a tax challenege...say a neighbors house was assessed at 900k but it is listed for 749K...would that help in a grievance (its clear the house won't get near 900k)? Or do they only look at the actual sold price.
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:46 AM
 
Location: New York
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- What I don't understand is this. A better school district like Manhasset is literally HALF the school tax rate that we are (480 vs 970). We are both Nassau County which these combined taxes are for. They may have more commercial there but why does that affect the SCHOOL tax rate? Even Hicksville is at 650.

- Teachers are putting blame elsewhere but their ridiculous salaries are contributing to the budget which is what all this shuffling is ultimately paying for.

- In the papers it appears Suozzi has a plan to alter how grievances are paid back to homeowners. I haven't seen a plan from Mangano. Yet it shows Mangano is at 50%+ in the polls vs. Suozzi at 35%. What gives?



I used to think this but it's not as simple as that. We are paying more via increased tax rates, but those higher tax rates still apply to everyone who has grieved too.

I agree w all points. We grieve and get a reduction every year. Our taxes have gone up every year since we moved in because they pretty much take whatever is needed. Go to any school budget meeting and they explain (blame) the increases on salaries and pensions.
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:00 PM
 
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I agree w all points. We grieve and get a reduction every year. Our taxes have gone up every year since we moved in because they pretty much take whatever is needed. Go to any school budget meeting and they explain (blame) the increases on salaries and pensions.
So you grieve, and get the reduction, yet your taxes go up. What do you pay the tax grievance lawyer?
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:42 PM
 
Location: New York
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So you grieve, and get the reduction, yet your taxes go up. What do you pay the tax grievance lawyer?

No lawyer, I do it myself. The old owners advised us to do this every year, and our taxes are lower than most.
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:18 PM
 
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Just got my school tax bill. It went up 6%. It indicates the school budget only increased 2%, the other budgets had no increase, and my assessed valuation went down.

So what's the scam? Raising the tax rate on the assessed valuation? Other home valuations went down so I have to pick up the slack?

So much for Cuomo's smoke and mirrors tax cap.
The 2% tax cap is BS, it was enacted to funnel more dollars to NYS instead of locally not to cap the taxes you pay. In my SD there has been a tax shift from business to homeowner for close to twenty years.
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:23 PM
 
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I agree w all points. We grieve and get a reduction every year. Our taxes have gone up every year since we moved in because they pretty much take whatever is needed. Go to any school budget meeting and they explain (blame) the increases on salaries and pensions.
It matters how realistically you are assessed. We all want to pay nothing, I get it but some are making out like bandits themselves. A house on my block sold for $379k. On mynassauproperty it shows they were assessed at $249k!! If their taxes went up 19% I wouldn't really feel sorry for them (well I would on general principles that we pay too much and the salaries and pensions are robbery) relative to what someone is getting hosed for that is already reasonably assessed since they are effectively paying 52% LESS than they should. So the other neighbor who's house is properly assessed at $360k goes up 6%, that is the true victim. Worse yet the little old lady in a condo who votes on 1.7% and gets an 11% increase. If you are assessed insanely low, you SHOULD get an increase. The problem is the assessments. That is where it all starts. Next, the salaries, benefits, mandates, etc but that is for another series of moronic threads where the 2 or 3 "teacher as victim" advocates will use new screen names to derail the thread for 28 pages.

The biggest culprits are the commercial tax lawyers who get their clients way better deals on their grievances than residential homeowners do and what a coinkydink they ALL have ties to BOTH Suozzi AND Mangano. Not just the campaigns, but from general legal practice circles. What a sham. What's worse is the "system" makes it perfectly legal. "Don't hate the player, hate the game."
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Old 10-17-2013, 02:26 PM
 
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I used to think this but it's not as simple as that. We are paying more via increased tax rates, but those higher tax rates still apply to everyone who has grieved too.
I think this is pretty close to the way your property tax is determined.

In Nassau there are four classes of property - business, residential, co-op and condo and something else. The School District sends Nassau their tax levy and NC then apportions the tax levy to each class as a whole. NC also sets the tax rate per class. Grieving your taxes does not change the tax levy apportioned to your class therefore your reduction results in an increase to all other homeowners.
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