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Old 10-15-2014, 12:58 PM
 
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It is a poor location for a place like CVS. And as a matter of fact yes, I do not want McDonald's, Walgreens or the like on a main street that has existed for over 100 years. If I liked giant strip malls filled with formulaic chains, I would move to the south. CVS would be fine on route 25. St James has a lot of character with the main street and I frequent many of the businesses whom know me by name. And it is not like there are not other business on Lake Ave that already provide everything CVS provides. There are a subset of people that would love to live in a gated community with a Super WalMart nearby but I am not one of them and nor are many people in the community. I chose to live here due to the walkability and community.
You would move to the south?

Is the south so bad? Have you ever been south of New Jersey...or even off Long Island.

Or did you mean south of 347?

Boo Hoo...you don't want a CVS in your quaint, friendly, small town village on Long Island.
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Old 10-15-2014, 12:58 PM
 
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I was just wondering if anyone had any stats on how successful these town hall "protests" have been in preventing legal businesses (whether large or small) from opening shop on a commercial road?

Reminds me of the story of the "protest" in Merrick from having a 7-11 open on the corner of Merrick Road and Babylon tnpk. The 7-11 is still opening.
They are attempting to rezone the property from residential to central business. Residential property should not be flipped like that, it sets a very bad precedent.
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Old 10-15-2014, 01:02 PM
 
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There already is a drug store a few blocks away, and another CVS a couple of miles away. I am waiting for the day that a CVS opens inside another CVS. Each to their own; I just think that having all these CVS's all over is an eye sore and it hurts small business. The planning department of the town has to assess the needs of the community and the character of the neighborhood. I have no doubt that they will end up approving it anyway as they did on the main street of Smithtown that has 2 giant strip malls and a Walgreens and CVS. However I will be down there to tell them that I do not want a CVS in our community and I am just posting this to alert people of the meeting. If you are a CVS lover then you are welcome to go down there and voice your support.
The trolls going to the hearing to voice their support would require them to get off their butts and away from their computers. Trolls without computers to hide behind = powerless.
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Old 10-15-2014, 01:04 PM
 
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I was just wondering if anyone had any stats on how successful these town hall "protests" have been in preventing legal businesses (whether large or small) from opening shop on a commercial road?

Reminds me of the story of the "protest" in Merrick from having a 7-11 open on the corner of Merrick Road and Babylon tnpk. The 7-11 is still opening.
Arsenal you are 100% right but this is not really a town hall protest. The planning board has to approve this and this is a public meeting where in a democracy we can go down and voice our opinions. You are probably right that they will just rubber stamp this CVS like they did for hundreds of others that have opened in the last few years but I am going to be there with others to tell them that we would prefer that the space would be used for something else. I believe the lot was zoned for a professional office anyhow so it is open for debate as whether the community would like a different business there.
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Old 10-15-2014, 01:08 PM
 
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You would move to the south?

Is the south so bad? Have you ever been south of New Jersey...or even off Long Island.

Or did you mean south of 347?

Boo Hoo...you don't want a CVS in your quaint, friendly, small town village on Long Island.
I have been all over the country and all over the world. In fact I just returned back last night from New Orleans which I enjoyed the character of immensely. What I am referring to is like when you go to Orlando Fl and the road basically repeats itself every 2 miles with the same places. Again if you like that then great go voice your support for more chain restaurants, formulaic stores and strip malls.
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Old 10-15-2014, 01:09 PM
 
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Arsenal you are 100% right but this is not really a town hall protest. The planning board has to approve this and this is a public meeting where in a democracy we can go down and voice our opinions. You are probably right that they will just rubber stamp this CVS like they did for hundreds of others that have opened in the last few years but I am going to be there with others to tell them that we would prefer that the space would be used for something else. I believe the lot was zoned for a professional office anyhow so it is open for debate as whether the community would like a different business there.
I can see this being effective for controversial businesses such as sex shops or strip clubs. A pharmacy is not a controversial business. Being a "large" pharmacy does not make is controversial in it of itself. Goodluck
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Old 10-15-2014, 01:18 PM
 
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No offense but Longs Islands worst problems should be CVS chain stores...
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Old 10-15-2014, 01:24 PM
 
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I went apple picking in this cute town of Warwick NY recently, amazing town with great little family stores. But it has a CVS right in middle. Antique stores, coffee houses, craft shops are cute buy fairly useless 364 days a year

St. James General Store I remember way back when and that is it when I lived out there. The town could use a white castle too while you are at it.

I have a starbucks and a chipolte walking distance from my house that replaced quaint boring old stores no one every went to. And the first CVS replaced old empty woolworth building many years ago and the other CVS replaced a greesy spoon diner. No great losses.
Given your proclivity for corporate chains, you did us all a favor moving out of here.
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Old 10-15-2014, 01:34 PM
 
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I have been all over the country and all over the world. In fact I just returned back last night from New Orleans which I enjoyed the character of immensely. What I am referring to is like when you go to Orlando Fl and the road basically repeats itself every 2 miles with the same places. Again if you like that then great go voice your support for more chain restaurants, formulaic stores and strip malls.
You're such the world traveler but chose to live on Long Island....but you are worrying about your small piece of it being invaded by the big bad CVS...OK.
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Old 10-15-2014, 01:44 PM
 
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Arsenal you are 100% right but this is not really a town hall protest. The planning board has to approve this and this is a public meeting where in a democracy we can go down and voice our opinions. You are probably right that they will just rubber stamp this CVS like they did for hundreds of others that have opened in the last few years but I am going to be there with others to tell them that we would prefer that the space would be used for something else. I believe the lot was zoned for a professional office anyhow so it is open for debate as whether the community would like a different business there.
A large, well presented turnout can surprise you. I've been involved in a few in the Nesconset area, and it always gets attention and forces the town to look a little closer at these requests. Petitions can go a long way, developing contacts within the town helps as well. You need to get full information and maintain regular contact with the panning department.

There is a reason why these hearings are made public. Also, make sure your argument isn't simply about how you do not like CVS. There is specific criteria that the town looks at when considering these requests; does it fit the character of the neighborhood, will it be a detriment, does it conform, etc. You may be able to contact the planning dept. to get the specific criteria, it would be very useful to center your argument around these criteria.
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